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Former Fukushima Worker: ‘I believe the country will be evacuated if No. 4 fuel pool collapses’
Energy News ^ | 5/22/2012 | Energy News

Posted on 05/23/2012 2:05:27 PM PDT by JohnKinAK

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To: Da Coyote

We have an absolute winner!

Not only do you deserve a couple of Nobel prizes just for starters, but the UN should take a serious look at any resume you may have.

You deserve a lifetime appointment as chairman of the UN Security Counsel.


61 posted on 05/23/2012 5:04:46 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: mrsmith
The pool support has already been reinforced.

That is true. They installed steel beam support and concrete. Was pointed out here by another Freeper quite a few moons ago.

At any rate, one thing we have learned over the past few years, governments always lie. Always. So when they tell you to worry about #4, that means that #4 is no longer a significant concern. They also do not want you looking at the real problems. For example - The Spent Fuel Pools in #3 and #1. Those buildings had worse explosions then #4. In fact #3 will be the biggest concern in a earthquake. The building is almost demolished already.

Another point, why are they not removing spent fuel rods from #2 ? Its crane is still functional, right ?

62 posted on 05/23/2012 5:06:21 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: GraceG
The Japanese people are pooping radiation right now thanks to our nuclear overlords. And Hillary Clinton want Americans eating Japanese food.

1,000 Bq/kg from human excrement in Nagano

63 posted on 05/23/2012 5:12:53 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Clay Moore
I am going to vote on headlights.

First time in over a year those lights have ever been seen. People watch all the time compressed videos. Headlights should be brighter on vertical surfaces, not brighter on horizontal surfaces.

64 posted on 05/23/2012 5:16:06 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Greysard
At least that's what Mr. Occam says.

Only ever been seen twice in the last month.

65 posted on 05/23/2012 5:18:31 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Spaulding

the reactor has now been completely dismantled.
***Bowl Sheet.

Chernobyl... no one was hurt.
***Again, Bowl Sheet.

Coal/electric plants generally release more radioactivity than commercial nuclear plants, which doesn’t mean they aren’t safe.
***Standard bowl sheet. Would you build your house on top of Chernobyl or Three Mile Island if they gave you the land for free? I wouldn’t. I’d be more than happy to build on top of any coal plant.


66 posted on 05/23/2012 5:20:51 PM PDT by Kevmo (SUCINOFRAGOPWIASS: Shut Up, CINOs; Free Republic Aint a GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
Apparently you missed this story.

First Arrest Made Linking Yakuza with Fukushima Nuclear Clean-Up Crews

67 posted on 05/23/2012 5:23:38 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Exactly how is this supposed to increase our confidence in fission as an energy option?


68 posted on 05/23/2012 5:53:28 PM PDT by Kevmo (SUCINOFRAGOPWIASS: Shut Up, CINOs; Free Republic Aint a GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: JohnKinAK

I was surprised to find there’s a bit more to this story.

“(NaturalNews) Japanese officials are currently engaging in talks with
Russian diplomats about where tens of millions of Japanese refugees
might relocate in the very-likely event that the Fukushima Daiichi
nuclear facility’s Reactor 4 completely collapses. According to a
recent report by EUTimes.net, Japanese authorities have indicated that
as many as 40 million Japanese people are in “extreme danger” of
radiation poisoning, and many eastern cities, including Tokyo, may
have to be evacuated in the next few weeks or months to avoid extreme
radiation poisoning.”

Learn more:
http://www.naturalnews.com/035894_Fukushima_evacuation_radiation.html#ixzz1vKOsI1wc


69 posted on 05/23/2012 6:12:45 PM PDT by Kevmo (SUCINOFRAGOPWIASS: Shut Up, CINOs; Free Republic Aint a GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
"the reactor has now been completely dismantled.
***Bowl Sheet."

This sounds like the people who reported contaminated milk years after TMI. TMI was decommissioned and dismantled. The other reactors at TMI continue to operate as safely as TMI, which means without ever having hurt anyone.

"Chernobyl... no one was hurt.
***Again, Bowl Sheet."

You didn't correct my statement, which should have made it clear that we are talking about the post meltdown cleanup. Chernobyl was not a commercial nuclear plant. Had it any containment there would have been no injuries, but the Communist government was not so concerned about law suits or bad publicity in the USSR. Three people died from radiation poisoning and estimates for the five year effects from higher than average radiation ranged from 20 to 60 additional premature deaths from leukemia and similar radiation related illnesses. That was, of course, over five years. The US EPA estimates an additional 200 deaths from respiratory disease are caused each year from each thousand megawatt coal-fired plant. Coal replaced the electricity from Chernobyl, which was a graphite core reactor, like the Fermi reactors at Chicago. Chernobyl's reactors also produced heat used to generate electricity, and used to heat nurseries and homes. It's design, because the USSR had boiling water and steam reactors then, was to produce weapons grade plutonium. Still, after five years, 940 more people died because Chernobyl was off line. Coal produces effluents too expensive to entirely remove. Coal is still far better than no electrical energy.

"Would you build your house on top of Chernobyl or Three Mile Island,

I worked for twelve years one floor above a research reactor, and would have no concern living just outside the the containment dome of a reactor, if it didn't obscure the view. The additional radiation from a reactor is about 1/500th the natural background radiation from a town on the Northeast coast of Brazil, where annual natural radiation is around 5 rem/year. It is a lovely town and there are no measured health effects from the radiation. There are other places with high radiation. One Taiwanese government study over 10,000 residents of a housing project where steel was accidentally contaminated with Cobalt 60, exposing all inhabitants to from 40 to 50 microcuries of radiation, day and night, showed a dramatic drop in cancers of all kinds, highly correlated with the stability of the inhabitants. The fish at Seabrook love the slightly warmed water, which has improved the already great fishing off the New Hampshire coast.

And no! I would not want to live near a coal plant. Hard to tell sometimes whether people are simply ignorant, or if they have bought the nonsense published by the environmentalism hawkers. Coal comes out of the ground. Uranium and radium come from under the ground. When one hundred coal cars of mined coal are burned each day to feed a thousand megawatt electric plant, it is perfectly natural that radium and uranium go up the smoke stacks. I doubt that it poses any danger, but coal plants have never met NRC standards for radiation, so it is not unexpected that they are not generally monitored for radiation. Some are, and the radiation reflects the geology of the mines from which the coal was extracted.

70 posted on 05/23/2012 10:28:16 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: edh

It’s just nature.


71 posted on 05/23/2012 10:38:32 PM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: Kevmo
Confidence. Well. How about examining the front top roof line of #4 reactor from the Tepco camera. Looks as if the wall is caving inward. Have no idea if this was planned demolition, but it has been sagging ever since that full day of fog/smog we recently had at Fukushima. Look at #4 reactor building. It is behind the second exhaust stack from the right. And behind the second crane from the right. Concentrate on the top roof line.

Live Tepco Camera

72 posted on 05/24/2012 12:51:54 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: yank in the UK

“In Japan, pooping your pants is a common foreplay ritual, so it can’t be THAT bad can it?”

Thanks man ... I cannot stop laughing now :-). I owe you a pint!


73 posted on 05/24/2012 8:07:09 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: edh

Glad I could amuse you, I’ll av a pint of Stella mate :)


74 posted on 05/24/2012 12:06:23 PM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Spaulding

This sounds like ...
***And you sound like one of those guys who’s so adamantly pro-fission that you can’t perform a cephalorectomy on yourself. The same BS arguments, over and over, such as contrasting with coal as a fuel.

I’m not gonna argue with an idiot just so you can bring me down to your level.

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75 posted on 05/24/2012 12:11:48 PM PDT by Kevmo (SUCINOFRAGOPWIASS: Shut Up, CINOs; Free Republic Aint a GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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