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1 posted on 05/17/2012 12:32:58 PM PDT by QT3.14
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Looks like it worked.


108 posted on 05/17/2012 3:17:56 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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Good for that College!


115 posted on 05/17/2012 4:24:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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What a crock that they believe that having a glass of wine at a restaurant is on the same level as adultery. Jesus drank wine in public with his disciples, while he was teaching them, in fact.

They have now made themselves into a “Christian” college that would not employ Jesus on their faculty.


117 posted on 05/17/2012 4:46:03 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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Good for the college.

I'm not in agreement with their theological position on total abstinence (I personally don't drink but I believe the Bible only allows me to condemn drunkenness, not drinking per se) but Baptists in America have a very long history on this issue and this is a lot less strict than many other historic stances on abstinence.

But back on track — this is a Baptist college. They have every right in the world to enforce their understanding of Scripture. Same if it were Roman Catholic, Lutheran, or any other theological position. From the resignation of the librarian and other staff, it seems obvious the problem was not just drinking but rather homosexuality and similar major problems.

122 posted on 05/17/2012 5:13:25 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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Good riddance to the whole cesspool of genetic chaff.


126 posted on 05/17/2012 5:58:34 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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Good riddance to the whole cesspool of genetic chaff.


127 posted on 05/17/2012 5:58:57 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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Wow! A school that didn't have to worry about tenure to cut unneeded staff by about 13%! Probably all the gender/race/glbt Prof's were the first to go! Awesome!
137 posted on 05/17/2012 6:57:31 PM PDT by MacMattico
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Excellent to see a Bible college promoting Biblical standards.

By the way, I think the most relevant scripture in understanding the alcohol provisions is this one:

“It is good neither to eat meat, nor to drink wine, nor anything by which your brother stumbles, or is offended, or is made weak.” Romans 14:21, King James 2000 Bible

The college isn’t stating that staff can’t drink alcohol, just not in public or for 6 hours prior to college events. It appears they are trying to prevent students from seeing staff and faculty indulging or under the influence of alcohol. College students are famous for being “weak” when it comes to alcohol use.


145 posted on 05/17/2012 7:59:33 PM PDT by Tamzee (Thomas Jefferson - "Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.")
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If they are going to go after sinners, I would prefer that they start with the envious and covetous.


147 posted on 05/17/2012 8:15:03 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Good! There are lots of young PhDs who are looking for work.


150 posted on 05/17/2012 8:40:53 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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Number 4 leaves me out. No beer or glass of whiskey at a restaurant?

However, I'm not Baptist either.

154 posted on 05/17/2012 9:15:05 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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They should have written "reject as unacceptable." Also, "reject" is rather theoretical next to the behavioral demand in the next item (refraining from alcohol use in public).
158 posted on 05/18/2012 4:06:18 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Non-compliant, not govt-issued, and not voting for Romney.)
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People just don’t want to pay public welfare benefits for two lunatics sodding off all day.

Muslims would just kill homosexuals.

Taking into consideration broken clocks tell the correct time twice each day, maybe “spread the other cheek” is not a good public policy.

In your unabridged Oxford Dictionaries, the word “faggotry” denotes the bundling of steel to be hammered or rolled together.

Mammalian evolution is entirely heterosexual.

 Monogamy is not required for evolution, monogamy is a tenet of religion.

To prohibit polyandry and polygyny is an ecclesiastic rule of law.

To establish an ecclesiastic standard of monogamy for homosexuals is nothing but RELIGIOUS FAGGOTRY.

Democrats live in a fantasy world where fairies wave magic wands over their anus and babies materialize out of thin air.

All men are born of a woman.

If you have to tell grown men that babies will not come out of their rectums, there is no hope for any rational discourse...


160 posted on 05/18/2012 4:40:05 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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162 posted on 05/18/2012 5:08:37 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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The University trustees is free to ask for such a statement and commitment from their employees. Personally I would not sign such a statement as a matter of principle. It is hard for me to square such a statement with the greatest of the commandments.


165 posted on 05/18/2012 5:23:37 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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Weeding out the sex-offenders is a major plus for this gutsy college. Bravo for them.


168 posted on 05/18/2012 7:30:20 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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Good riddance. Can I get a job there?


169 posted on 05/18/2012 8:24:46 AM PDT by GVnana
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Would “Good Riddance” be the appropriate retort?
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174 posted on 05/18/2012 11:50:34 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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They are creating jobs!

Gay librarian rejects Shorter University’s Baptist ‘lifestyle statement,’ awaits response.

Shorter University tenured librarian Michael Wilson planned to work at the school’s Rome, Ga., campus until retirement. Instead, he is preparing to hand in his resignation.

According to Inside Higher Ed, this year Shorter issued amended contracts to university employees requiring that they reject practices it deemed inconsistent with Christian values. Wilson, who is openly gay, signed the contract but crossed out the contract’s “lifestyle statement” that read: “I reject as acceptable all sexual activity not in agreement with the Bible, including, but not limited to, premarital sex, adultery, and homosexuality.”

What brought about the new contracts? Six years ago, Shorter lost a court battle against its affiliate, the Georgia Baptist Convention, over who would control the school’s direction. The amended contracts were issued as an attempt by the Georgia Baptist Convention to ensure the school’s Christian identity and assert more control over the Shorter campus. The contract also restricted drug use and drinking in public. - http://blog.syracuse.com/haveyouheard/print.html?entry=/2012/05/gay_librarian_michael_wilson_r.html

Recent history

In the 1950s, the college became co-educational and the addition of male students created a need for a new male-only residence hall. The university also began intercollegiate athletics program in the NAIA and initiated new clubs organizations and fraternities.[3] Randall Minor became the college’s 14th president in 1958.[3] Under Minor, control of the selection process for trustees was given to the Georgia Baptist Convention. The college constructed a new administration building, student center, library, fine arts center and hired additional faculty for the expanding school.[3] The late 1950s also saw the first African-American student graduate. [3]

The political and social climate of the 1960s had a great effect on the college throughout the decade. During the era the student government’s power increased and new organizations were created on campus. A number of special events were held on campus, including memorial services for both the John F. Kennedy assassination and Assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., and Earth Day was observed for the first time.[3] In 1973 Shorter College celebrated its 100th anniversary through special activities and traditions.[3]

International programs began in the 1990s and the university expanded MBA programs and adult education programs with the establishment of the School of Professional Programs in the Atlanta area.[3] The university dedicated the Winthrop-King Centre and created the Fitton Student Union when it converted the old gym into the facility. Shorter College constructed the Bass Apartments, the J. Robert Eubanks Welcome Center and the Robert H. Ledbetter baseball field.[3]

In 2005, the college attempted to break away from the Georgia Baptist Convention, citing among other complaints fear of losing accreditation[4] after the convention assigned two trustees without the approval of the college and current trustees. The Georgia Supreme Court, however, ruled that Shorter’s board didn’t have the authority to sever ties with the convention. The Georgia Baptist Convention continues to pick trustees for the college. On June 1, 2010, Shorter College changed its name to Shorter University to reflect the institution’s growth and expansion.[1][5]

In October 2011, the university’s policy against homosexuality attracted attention in newspapers around the world[6] when the university introduced a requirement that its employees must sign a “Personal Lifestyle Statement” in which they agree to adhere to the following principles as a condition of their employment:

They will be loyal to the mission of Shorter University as a Christ-centered institution affiliated with the Georgia Baptist Convention.
They will not engage in the use, sale, possession, or production of illegal drugs.
They will reject as acceptable all sexual activity not in agreement with the Bible, including, but not limited to, premarital sex, adultery, and homosexuality.
They will not use alcoholic beverages in the presence of students, and will abstain from serving, from using, and from advocating the use of alcoholic beverages in public (e.g. in locations that are open to use by the general public, including as some examples restaurants, concert venues, stadiums, and sports facilities) and in settings in which students are present or are likely to be present. Neither would they promote or encourage the use of alcohol.

Employees who fail to adhere to the requirements face potential disciplinary action including immediate termination.[7] All new and existing employees are required to sign. Shorter University President Don Dowless explained that those who do not will likely be fired, stating “I think that anybody who adheres to a lifestyle that is outside of what the biblical mandate is and of what the board has passed, including the president, would not be allowed to continue here.”[8] He further stated “Anything outside that is not biblical, we do not accept” and “We have a right to hire only Christians.”[6]

On November 10, 2011, the university was partially evacuated when a bomb threat was received during a student protest on campus regarding the personal lifestyle statement and perceptions that the new policy was anti-gay.[9].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorter_University


190 posted on 05/18/2012 6:38:09 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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I am a clean, sober, christian man. I would quit before signing such a pledge. They have no business sticking their nose into my business outside of the workplace, so long as it is legal.

Asking for such a pledge from professors just indicates someone running that school is stupid.

Every contract I’ve ever worked under had a morals clause. They did not need me crossing my heart and hoping to die.


193 posted on 05/18/2012 7:27:06 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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