Obama: 'I was born in Hawaii,' wink, wink (taunts Trump, complements press on digging up truth)

World Net Daily ^ | April 29, 2012 | Drew Zahn

[Seizethecarp]

“Au contraire, the Auntie thread has zero evidence that SAD was in Seattle with a baby at the time “Anna Obama” was there.”

You have no proof the INS docs are not genuine.

There is discussion of the INS FOIA docs on the Auntie thread...docs which are evidence. You and others may claim they are forged, but they are evidence.

The INS FOIA doc provide contemporaneous proof that Stanley Ann planned to go to a university in Seattle in Sept 1961, so to Polk docs and witness accounts of her line up with that Ann Obama being her, as to the transcripts. To make your narrative work the INC docs and UW and UH doc must ALL have been forged.

There is no evidence provided in the INS FOIA docs that the notation of a “wife in the Philippines” was provided by BHO Sr. or was just a brain fart by an INS worker in Baltimore who didn't know the difference between Hawaii and the Philippines...and no proof of any “Anne Obama” giving birth to a mixed race baby anywhere on the planet.

You are willing to accept the INS docs as proof of a non-SADO mom for a BHO Sr. baby, but you don't accept the same docs as proof that BHO Sr and SADO were claimed to have been married (as reported to INS by UH) or that SADO was planning to be in Seattle in the fall of 1961.

The originals of the INS FOIA docs can be subpoenaed for verification, unlike the so far unrevealed documents of an alternative non-Stanley Ann "Anna in Seattle." The INS FOIA docs refute and exclude both that Filipino Anna and the Dreams narratives for Barry.

[Fred Nerks]

...I prefer to build a likely narrative on evidence that has been corroborated by witnesses and documents.

Which means you believe the birth certificate is a valid document? Lord knows THAT has been corroborated by witnesses...LOL! And btw, when you quote the content of the immigration docs, maybe you should post them - you give the impression the kenyan's 'wife' is named...she's not. Where the memo says his 'wife' plans to attend the U of WA, there's no name either, and where it says his 'wife' from whom he is separated is living in the Philippines, there's no name...

Here's the document from which I quoted:

And you wrote:

The INS FOIA doc provide contemporaneous proof that Stanley Ann planned to go to a university in Seattle in Sept 1961

Once again, there's no name. Just a girl with a child living with her parents...on 31 AUGUST 1961...So who was the girl with the kenyan in the dock image and at the Nachmannofs? The girl named Ann that Abercrombie saw? And if that INS memo is correct and genuine, he should have had no problems showing a long form birth certificate right from the start, because if his mother's name was really Stanley Ann Dunham and his father was Barack Hussein Obama from Kenya, why the forgery?

Here's the URL for the immigration docs, if you are going to quote from them, I suggest you SHOW what you are quoting FROM:

IMMIGRATION FILE

It's somewhat misleading to state you prefer to build a likely narrative on evidence that has been corroborated by witnesses and documents... when you never show any.

But be my guest, you want SAD to be the mother so badly you aren't even aware of your bias or the fact that it rests purely upon the shape of a CHIN. You have so far been the greatest stumbling block to freepers understanding they have been hoodwinked as to his origins, THE TOTALLY MISSING FIRST TWO YEARS OF HIS LIFE. But be my guest, you probably aren't aware of your bias, it's your country. I'm just an aussie who hates lies.

[Fred Nerks]

Marcy and the Stanley Ann woman look nothing alike.

STANLEY ANN DUNHAM

Two images of the model, One of which bore the serial number YA 438, whose tinted images were removed from the free-vintage-porn com website AT LEAST TWO YEARS AGO when I first traced them after they appeared on the web - and two black and white images of a model named Marcy Moore.

[little jeremiah]

The originals of the INS FOIA docs can be subpoenaed for verification,

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When that happens then people can take a look at them. Until that time, who knows. The criminal cover up of who and what Zero is continues. Polk docs say nothing about her being in Seattle - notations for “Anna Obama” only, nothing about Stanley Ann, and witnesses are untrustworthy and changed stories. You say:

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To make your narrative work the INC docs and UW and UH doc must ALL have been forged.

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Considering all the forged and missing documents so far, you don’t think those could be doctored or forged as well? Are you wet behing the ears or what? You are waaaay too trusting.

[mo]

IMHO....’Bammy is the French and German...and Russian payback to the USA for W’s upsetting the Iraq/Saddam “Food for Oil” game the European Elite were playing.

[Fred Nerks]

... I do not believe that the woman in the photos that are identified as possibly being Stanley Ann is Marcy. The faces do not look the same.

Which means you believe it's possible that first of all, SAD was actually in Hawaii in 1960, when there's no evidence she was, you also have to believe she had a physical relationship with a black man almost 40 years older, a man who was married to an attractive and wealthy white woman with whom he had FIVE children...whose physical features belie the possibility he's the father of zero, because he's a chinless, barrel chested, dumpy little man with a nose like a dumpling...and NINE images of FMD in a collage upthread make it clear he and zero resemble each other as much as chalk and cheese are similar.

The problem appears to be psychological...to let go of the idea that a seventeen year old girl, whose father was a close friend (of which we also have no proof, we've never seen anything of Stanley Armour and Frank Marshall together) of her seducer, means at the same time letting go of the last vestige of hope that you know at least WHO ONE OF HIS PARENTS WERE.

Letting go of that, is really scary, isn't it? It's an abyss. A very very frightful place...and takes you back to the question, WHO IS THIS PERSON? Where was he born, who were his parents?

It's safe where Stanley Ann Dunham is. It's even safe where Frank Marshall Davis is. But it's like looking for a lost ring in the wrong room - because the light is better THERE.

[little jeremiah]

Thank you for all the clarifications and evidence.

[Fred Nerks]

Film: President’s father not Barack Obama
World Net Daily ^ | April 25, 2012 | Jerome Corsi

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2876667/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2877813/posts?page=130#130

for you or anyone else who might want to see how it all started again.

[Seizethecarp]

“Which means you believe the birth certificate is a valid document?”

The WH LFBC has never been produced in any legal proceeding and has been demonstrated to be forged convincingly, IMO. It has not been corroborated, it has been challenged! Barry's attorney wouldn't even let him hold it.

BHO Sr. was a serial liar and appears to have told the INS agent in Baltimore in 1964 a few months after the SADO divorce that he was divorced from a wife who was now in the Philippines, or perhaps the agent got the wrong Pacific Island chain.

The 1961 INS FOIA image you posted states that a US citizen wife of BHO Sr has a baby named Barack Obama II and she and the baby are living with her parents but intending to go to school in WA. Now who would that be on Aug 31 1961 when that note was made? Another INS FOIA doc notes the same date of marriage to this US citizen wife, Feb 2, 1961 as appears in the HI marriage index for BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham.

[Fred Nerks]

It’s like an infection that has become immune to anti-biotics. I keep injecting what aught to be the cure, but the germ of the lies has mutated...and become the perceived truth. It’s too late, the party is over. If freepers are prepared to fight tooth and nail to retain the myth of Stanley Ann Dunham’s motherhood against all common sense to the contrary, then ‘Dreams From My Father’ remains the blueprint, and regardless of speculation as to fatherhood, without any proof, he remains what he maintains to be, a native born citizen of the US...which is quite acceptable to the electorate and the judiciary.

[Fred Nerks]

BHO Sr. was a serial liar and appears to have told the INS agent in Baltimore in 1964 a few months after the SADO divorce that he was divorced from a wife who was now in the Philippines, or perhaps the agent got the wrong Pacific Island chain.

From the document:

AFTER ALIEN STATED HE WAS MARRIED, HE SAID HE WAS SEPARATED AND THAT THEY MAY GET A DIVORCE. THE WIFE IN THE PHILIPPENES FROM WHOM HE IS SEPARATED IS A U.S.C. MEMO ON YELLOW PAPER IN FILE INDICATES HE HAD A WIFE IN KENYA WHEN HE ARRIVED IN THE US IN 1959

Dated April 28, 1964. The divorce which gave Stanley Ann Dunham custody was granted March 20, 1964, almost one month before the kenyan states they are thinking about getting a divorce. Her first passport application was dated July, 1965. You can say it a hundred times but that doesn't make it so, the immigration department can't tell the difference between INDONESIA AND THE PHILIPPENES??? To which she didn't travel - going by the passport docs - UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR LATER.

I think you are being less than honest and deliberately misleading.

[Fred Nerks]

Another INS FOIA doc notes the same date of marriage to this US citizen wife, Feb 2, 1961 as appears in the HI marriage index for BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham.

you really are a piece of work, first of all, if you are so sure of what is on the immigration doc, seeing that I provided a link to all of the documents, why don't you do us all a favour and post the item to which you are referring? Other than that, all you provide is WORDS!

FURTHERMORE THERE ARE NO DATES ON THE HAWAII MARRIAGE INDEX. (But I'm going to be just as obscure as you are, I won't bother posting a copy of the index.)

[Seizethecarp]

I stand corrected. There are no dates in the HI index, just the bride and groom.

The date in the 1961 INS notes corroborates the date of marriage in the divorce filing in 1964.

So we have multiple INS FOIA documents recounting a US citizen wife of BHO Sr. whom he married on Feb 2, 1961 with the wife living with her parents and a baby named Barack Obama II and that was born on Aug 4, 1961 and that wife was curiously intending to enroll in a WA university in Sept. 1961...and also he recently divorced that wife as of April 1964. BHO Sr. did name his wife as Ann S., IIRC, not S. Ann but he might just have been embarrassed by her masculine first name and she went by Ann later in life.

All of these recorded facts about BHO Sr’s wife in the INS FOIS docs align perfectly with the corroborated documentary evidence concerning Stanley Ann Dunham...and these facts destroy the Dreams narrative of the little happy family in Hawaii for two years before BHO Sr. left for Harvard.

I have yet to see evidence admissible in federal court that Barry is "native born" because his only 1961 LFBC image is forged, IMO.

[Fred Nerks]

...BHO Sr. did name his wife as Ann S., IIRC, not S. Ann but he might just have been embarrassed by her masculine first name and she went by Ann later in life.

More WORDS! In fact, her name (who-ever she was) is reflected in one of the layers of the forgery, where we see Ann D......to which 'unham' has obviously been added to create Ann Dunham Obama, and the name 'Stanley' has been created from an unknown entry in brackets, the original of which was shorter than the name 'Stanley' - so the bracket was removed and placed further along...

WATCH THE VIDEO

[Fred Nerks]

I WROTE: ...he remains what he maintains to be, a native born citizen of the US...which is quite acceptable to the electorate and the judiciary.

YOU WROTE: I have yet to see evidence admissible in federal court that Barry is "native born" because his only 1961 LFBC image is forged, IMO.

I DON'T GIVE A HOOT WHAT EVIDENCE YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN OR ANY BLAH BLAH BLAH ABOUT FEDERAL COURT...YOU ARE TWISTING WORDS AGAIN. I MADE IT QUITE CLEAR, HE REMAINS WHAT HE CLAIMS TO BE...AS LONG AS STANLEY ANN DUNHAM REMAINS THE MOTHER-MYTH.

He doesn't give a d*mn about the Constitution or how you interpret 'natural born' - and neither does the majority of the electorate, and as for the judiciary, SCOTUS is 'evading the issue' - remember?

Stanley Ann Dunham is the only thing that provides him with what he claims to be...or the Frank Marshall Davis/father monstrosity. Take your pick.

[little jeremiah]

I am wondering if anyone checked into the location of the street on which (supposedly) the wife of the Kenyan lived with her parents. 1482 Allinestri (sp??) St. Even with bad spelling it doesn’t resemble any street I ever read of in Honolulu. Funny I don’t remember anyone following up on that, I would think someone did.

[Fred Nerks]

ALENCASTRE STREET HONOLULU.

[Fred Nerks]

ANN S OBAMA.

...gosh, I hate to bring this up, but going by the supposed birthdate of Stanley Ann Dunham, she would still have been in high school until the summer of 1961. Methinks it was Ann S Obama who was enrolled at the U of HI for Fall 1960. It was Ann who we see with the kenyan at the Nachmannofs.

[little jeremiah]

Ah, Alencastre St. Thank you.

[little jeremiah]

The timeline and ages for SAD just do not fit. Add that to the complete lack of any witnesses, photos or any other corroborating evidence to her being in HI before the photos of her with a toddler Zero.