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In other words, the Supreme Court should not even have heard this case, or any other case, much less render judgement on it.
1 posted on 04/05/2012 6:56:06 PM PDT by chessplayer
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The vote on this bill in the House was treasonous to say the least. The late J Murtha, took a visible show of hands, and an auditory. He claimed it was the speakers prerogative on how to hold the vote.


33 posted on 04/05/2012 7:36:48 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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I have a law degree and Obama / Holder make a total disgrace of the legal profession.


39 posted on 04/05/2012 7:48:19 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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I’m surprised Holder didn’t give him a one sentence answer with the font adjusted to take up 3 pages.


42 posted on 04/05/2012 8:04:38 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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Blah blah blah

This is the politicians playing games in the Washington preschool.

In Marbury v Madison John Marshall wrote into the constitution the right of the Supreme Court to review the decisions of Congress. This was the seminal decision to ignore the actual words of the document.

Lawyers since have learned and accepted this in their first year of law school and have in turn passed the decision of one man looking to preserve his job into the jurisprudence of the good old USA..

45 posted on 04/05/2012 8:32:56 PM PDT by montanajoe
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46 posted on 04/05/2012 8:36:28 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Holder - “In considering such challenges, Acts of Congress are “presumptively constitutional,” Turner Broadcasting System, Inc. v. FCC

More weaseling from the White Hut weasels.
They don’t think the plebs will know that there are different types of presumptions. For examples, a presumption can be conclusive or rebuttable (rebut: `to refute, especially by offering opposing evidence or arguments, as in a legal case’).
The SCOTUS made it clear that they considered the presumption of validity rebutted by agreeing to hear the matter rather than denying the writ.
If I thought the Attorney General was working for me, I might consider a malpractice lawsuit.


51 posted on 04/05/2012 9:54:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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Courts are supposed to presume that laws are constitutional...

Just like black people, black "ministers," and liberals are supposed to presume white Hispanics who shoot black thugs are innocent until prove guilty?

52 posted on 04/06/2012 1:41:34 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Not one Republican voted for it,it was done by reconciliation,the speaker of the House said we have to Pass it to see what was in it,and to this day it is not even fully implemented and we still dont know all of what is in it, so NO ONE can say it is Constitutional as a Whole but forcing someone to engage in something under threat of imprisonment just does not strike me as American,especially in the way it was shoved down the peoples Throat.


53 posted on 04/06/2012 3:40:25 AM PDT by ballplayer
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Seems like Witholder and his King believe that the Supreme Court has no real function any more in this country.

“The last remnants of the old republic have been swept away.”


54 posted on 04/06/2012 3:52:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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All Judges take one (or more) of three purportedly solemn Oaths (or affirmations) to support the Constitution,and laws.
Now if Congress controlled by Democrats and Progressives— and the most anti-American President Ever push through bad law that violates the fundamental principles of Liberty then the Court has an obligation to support the Constitution and NO where do I see power granted to the Federal Government to mandate anybody participate in Commerce.


56 posted on 04/06/2012 4:54:46 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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Holder - "In considering such challenges, Acts of Congress are “presumptively constitutional,”

Uh, no they aren't, you AFFIRMATIVE-ACTION IGNORANT RACIST KNOW-NOTHING CORRUPT MORON.

God, what an asshat.

58 posted on 04/06/2012 6:48:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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Holder and Obama are idiots trying to stir up all the other idiots. An activist democrat congress without bipartisan support and ignoring their own parliamentary rules forced an illegal law on the American people who overwhelmingly did not want this illegal law approved. The only recourse for the people is the courts, the ballot box, and other means remaining to defeat power grabs that ignore the constitution. It is the courts job to check and balance an out of control Congress and or executive branch that ignore the law. The idiots can twist and lie and squirm all they want, but this illegal law is going down as it should and in the fall the fools that attempted to force this garbage on us will be defeated at the ballot box and than America can get back to work.
62 posted on 04/06/2012 8:35:43 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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(sighs). If rational basis review can strike down laws like Romer v Evans, which is a Colorado state law preemption against gays being protected class, it can surely strike down laws against the feds for exceeding the powers of the commerce clause, which it has in the past.


63 posted on 04/06/2012 8:49:13 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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