Posted on 03/15/2012 10:14:05 AM PDT by marktwain
One basis for distinction is the fact that in many cases it may be difficult to judge whether someone accused of attempted murderer would have actually committed murder in the absence of intervening factors. Suppose, for example, if police capture someone who is pointing a firearm at someone and appears ready to shoot. Such a person could be charged with attempted murder, but it may be difficult or impossible to show whether, in the absence of police, the defendant would actually have gone ahead and killed his target, or whether he would have had second thoughts and gone home with nobody ever being aware of his aborted plans.
You bet, any thugs/criminals near me, at least have the decency to put signs on their doors, broadcasting who they are and what they've done. It makes it real easy to evict them and force them to live elsewhere.
Yep, I get the feeling it’s just a matter of time until the SHTF.
sailboats are still running pretty cheap right now...just sayin
(i’m loading mine up)
Or your dog....or your grandma....or....
If I'm the DA, that isn't attempted murder (contingent on the wording of the state law defining the crime of attempted murder). IMO it's not "attempted murder" unless he ATTEMPTS to MURDER the guy, i.e. in this firearm scenario, actually pulled the trigger, or we have some forensic evidence that he tried to pull the trigger, but failed because the safety was engaged, etc. Pointing a gun at someone isn't attempted murder. Reckless endangerment, maybe, if it wasn't justified, but not attempted murder.
Because it would NEVER occur to home invaders to identify themselves as cops, and since cops work for the homeowners, it should be the homeowners and not the cops who bear the consequences of guessing wrong.
[ do I really need the /s? ]
You'd think this type of response would be reserved for armed dangerous hostage takers, mass murderers, and international terrorist.
Unfortunately, this is not the case, as there are now hundreds of military swat raids in neighborhoods, all over this country, every single day.
An extremely disturbing state of affairs.
Even if they did, so what? It's not like that idea would never occur to home invaders, and why should it be the homeowner who pays the cops' salaries to take the risk.
And then what about this factor:
“The poorest man may in his cottage, bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail, its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England may not enter; all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement.” - Pitt the Elder, speaking in the House of Lords, 1763
It’s all about BUDGETS. If the SWAT Team isn’t used almost daily, their budget is cut. Presto gizmo, it’s used almost every day, where normal cops used to do the same things. Now, it’s like a military raid. “Use it or lose it” applies to SWAT budgets.
Vroni you stated:”All this could have been avoided if the neighborhood hadn’t allowed the thugs that caused all that to live there in the first place...it’s called civil courage.
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My Comment; Leo? You are PATHETIC!!
And basically the same with government at every level. Look how the EPA, DEA, HLS, CPS, (the list is endless) has morphed into punitive, costly overreaching controlling entities, constantly exercising it's power, demanding bigger budgets, more control, more authority.
Meanwhile, the few things government is actually supposed/required to do, such as secure our borders, millions cross unabated and are rewarded and given prizes while forcing the tax payers to subsidize it.
” You’d think this type of response would be reserved for armed dangerous hostage takers, mass murderers, and international terrorist.
Unfortunately, this is not the case, as there are now hundreds of military swat raids in neighborhoods, all over this country, every single day.
An extremely disturbing state of affairs.”
Especially when you consider that the house I foreclosed on was in the Thousand Oaks/Westlake Village, California area....the 2nd lowest crime rate in the country.
To me, these are all signs that we are reaching the end of freedom’s road.
“Losing my freedom was not the change I hoped for.”
There you have it, they have their stories wired up tight. Amazing how well they ALWAYS do that.
I concur. It’s a noose, incrementally tightening, choking the freedom and life out of this country, by a government who clearly has a deep desire to control and regulate everything, except for things such as our sovereignty and securing our borders.
Outside of unseen dramatic signification changes which would limit the size, scope and spending of government at all levels, it’s going to get very ugly down the road were being led.
““Use it or lose it” applies to SWAT budgets””
Well, that explains the huge rise in the number of SWAT
raids, all over the country. All the doggone govt. programs, once initiated, turn into a bloated monster, sooner or later.....it doesn’t matter if it’s state or federal.
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