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Rejecting Romney (Why Evangelicals can't pull the lever for him)
National Review ^ | 03/14/2012 | Katrina Trinko

Posted on 03/14/2012 6:37:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/14/2012 6:37:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
There are signs, too, that evangelicals aren’t so much opposed to a Romney presidency as they simply prefer his rivals. In Virginia, for instance, where neither Santorum nor Gingrich was on the ballot, Romney won 62 percent of the evangelical vote.

So, in a race between Romney and Ron Paul, Romney only got 62% of the vote? That's not good news.

2 posted on 03/14/2012 6:41:43 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I lived in New England. It isn’t just the evangelicals. I’m about as far as you can get from evangelical and still be human and wouldn’t vote for that bas-turd on a bet.


3 posted on 03/14/2012 6:48:42 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: SeekAndFind
It has nothing to do with my evangelical beliefs. Myth is NOT who he says he is. We have already got one like that.

vaudine

4 posted on 03/14/2012 6:49:03 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: SeekAndFind

I am evangelical and the reason for not voting for Mittens has nothing to do with his mormonism. It’s based on the fact that he flip flops more than a fish out of water.
Freegards
Lex


5 posted on 03/14/2012 6:53:09 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SeekAndFind; justiceseeker93; vette6387; JLAGRAYFOX; Doogle; Foolsgold; left that other site; ...

RomneyCare = ObamaCare= AuschwitzCare = Holocaust II

Never Again is here, in my opinion, courtesy of this Regime and the US Congress. Instead of showers and a wooden bar of soap, We The People, will be given a pill and sent to a Government Hospice Center while your family members “plead for your life.” If you doubt what I’m predicting, please tell us how it differs. Ask yourself who Big Bro and Big Sis’s victims will be as they deny healthcare based on “their criteria.”

Could this be the Elitist Politician’s fix for Social Security excluding them, of course.


6 posted on 03/14/2012 6:57:24 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SeekAndFind

Evangelicals don’t much care about a candidate’s religion; they just want a president to lives and breathes conservativism. Mitt ain’t that guy. We knew that the day we learned he had to hire a coach to learn “conservative speak”. I think that was the day after he said he wanted to raise the minimum wage and conservatives freaked out. He’s clueless.


7 posted on 03/14/2012 7:01:20 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

How would Southerner’s react to an honest Northern Candidate who honestly says — He isn’t much for eating grits? (instead of pretending he likes it)?

I spoke to a cousin of mine who lives in Huntsville, Alabama and he said — “Now such honesty would be refreshing.”


8 posted on 03/14/2012 7:05:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (question)
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To: SeekAndFind

Are you kidding? I can hardly imagine voting for a man that thinks his destiny is to be a god on another planet.


9 posted on 03/14/2012 7:06:02 AM PDT by grumpa
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To: ExTexasRedhead

In a nutshell, Mitt Romney is a flawed candidate with a fatal flaw, Romneycare!!! As you will clearly note, the Republican Primary voters are not listenting to a word that the Obamabot, media and pundits, including many Republican establishment type that Romney has the GOP nomination sewed up!!! This fight IMHO, will continue until at least June of this year!!!

The lamestream media is not being listed to, heeded and is now dead in the water. Obama is going down to defeat in November, big time. His “hope & change “ jive, works no more!!! The man is a disgrace to America, to his people and to himself, useless fool that he is!!!


10 posted on 03/14/2012 7:08:13 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: vaudine
“It has nothing to do with my evangelical beliefs. Myth is NOT who he says he is. We have already got one like that.”

Romney is about as much a Mormon as Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic, which is to say that he doesn't subscribe to the most basic tenets of Mormonism. But like Pelosi, Romney manages to skate with his church's leadership on his apostasy because of his power and money.

11 posted on 03/14/2012 7:08:56 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: SeekAndFind; greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; Godzilla; MHGinTN; narses; reaganaut; ...
This Evangelical Christian will never vote for any Mormon for any elective office!

Under no circumstances will I ever stand before my Maker and explain that I supported a cultist who directly or through his organization proclaimed that:

  1. There are more gods than the one God revealed in the Bible.

  2. God is a glorified, perfected human being with a body of flesh and bone.

  3. God is polygamously married to dozens (at least) of wives, and spends eternity as a type of Celestial Stud engaged in endless copulation producing countless spirit babies.

  4. Jesus is the spirit brother of Lucifer.

  5. Jesus is the literal Son of God who was conceived through direct sexual intercourse between the Virgin Mary and God the Father -- or in other words, that God committed incest with his daughter Mary.

  6. A person is saved into heaven by virtue of their good works.

  7. A person must accept Joseph Smith in order to receive salvation and must then pass in judgment before Joseph Smith before being admitted into Heaven.

  8. A person must believe in Prophet Lorenzo Snow's famous couplet: As man now is, God once was ... As God now is, Man may become … that a person must be sealed in a Masonic-based temple ceremony to his/her spouse for time and all eternity in order to become gods and goddesses ruling over our own planet.

  9. Non-whites are loathsome and cursed because of something they did or did not do in the dawn of pre-existence whereas people of European descent in general, and Mormons in particular, are white and delightsome and thus superior to minorities.

  10. Wives will only be resurrected after their husbands after he calls out their Temple Name from beyond the veil.

  11. Christianity ceased to exist after the death of the twelve apostles, to the point where all Christian Churches (especially the Baptists, Catholics, Methodists and Presbyterians) became an abomination in the eyes of the Lord.

  12. The Mormon Church is Christian.

Furthermore, I can't believe that any true Christian anywhere would ever contemplate supporting any candidate for any public office that espouses such horrible heretical and blasphemous doctrines -- be they Muslim, Mormon, or whatever.
12 posted on 03/14/2012 7:30:22 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can’t because he’s a liberal and a liar.


13 posted on 03/14/2012 7:33:01 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: SeekAndFind
having surfed some evangelical sites, it seems Romney's Mormonism is more of a problem than I ever thought it would be, especially in the South.

I recall clearly that when Kennedy was running for president, many expressed concerns that the Pope would soon be calling the shots for JFK.

Religion is a factor, like it or not.

14 posted on 03/14/2012 7:33:22 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: vette6387; vaudine; FastCoyote; Zakeet; svcw

Romney is about as much a Mormon as Nancy Pelosi is a Catholic, which is to say that he doesn’t subscribe to the most basic tenets of Mormonism.

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You are kidding, right?!?!?! Just what ‘tenets’ does Mitt not subcribe to according to you?

Because the opposite is true, Mitt is a dyed in the wool, faithful, believing, practicing Mormon. He is actually the epitome of being a Mormon.

He is a liberal who lies to get what he wants BECAUSE he is a Mormon, not in spite of it. Sorry to burst your bubble.


15 posted on 03/14/2012 7:48:43 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: vette6387

I am not sure you know anything about mormonism to make the statement you have made.
Romney is mormonism. He is as high in the corporation as one came go without being one of the twelve.
Romney is who he is because of his mormonism not in spite of it.
There is nothing that Romney has done, or how he has governed that violate any mormonism principles.


16 posted on 03/14/2012 7:53:05 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Zakeet

Bears repeating...often.


17 posted on 03/14/2012 7:54:39 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Praise Jesus! I have been redeemed from the "restoration" of mormonism!)
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To: svcw

I AM a Mormon. Have been for almost 72 years. I am disgusted with the General Authorities hiding under their desks with respect to Romney and Reid. Neither of them should be considered to be members in good standing for a number of positions that they have taken as politicians. So I have to disagree with your assessment. By the way, on a recent visit, I discussed the problems I have with Reid as regards his worthiness with the Home Teachers. Their response was that the entire Ward was up in arms that Reid had not already been excommunicated!!! I also think its a disgrace for Romney to use groups of missionaries and BYU students to “populate” his rallies. There is just nothing about Romney that any decent Mormon should respect. The idea that Romney is destined to be “called” to be a member of the Twelve causes me to shudder. He personifies the biblical passage: “though they draw near to me with their lips, their hearts, they are far from Me.”


18 posted on 03/14/2012 8:35:12 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: elpadre

I recall clearly that when Kennedy was running for president, many expressed concerns that the Pope would soon be calling the shots for JFK.

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There is a huge difference between JFK and the Pope and Mitt and the LDS prophet (Thomas S. Monson atm).

The first of which, the Pope presides universally but from Europe not the Western United States. He is European and would practically be more likely to insert himself in EU politics rather than US - but that is unlikely.

The LDS prophet has insterted himself in US politics in the past - even Bob Bennet addmitted that he was ‘forcefully encouraged’ and in one case even ordered to pass legislation/earmark that would directly benefit the Mormon church. Also, being a US religion (primarily) the LDS prophet (and the Mormon church is a very political animal despite their protestation to the contrary) is more interested in US politics.

There is also a differene in how the view their heirarchy. Mormon Hierarchy and demands for obedience are absolute in Mormonism. You get out of line (like historian Grant Palmer) you are punished.

Finally, Mitt as POTUS would be used for Propaganda purposes for the LDS church to lessen the tide of those leaving (like Glenn Beck). Also, I guarantee Mitt will be held up as a fulfillment of a prophecy Smith made about his own run for POTUS in 1844 just for this purpose.

So, while tempting, the comparison between JFK and Mitt just doesn’t hold water. Mormonism and Catholicism are vastly different.


19 posted on 03/14/2012 8:44:04 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: SeekAndFind

The biggest tactic Liberals use is victimization. They think making Romney a victim of his religion will get him elected.


20 posted on 03/14/2012 8:48:51 AM PDT by aimhigh
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