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If Contraception Is a Form of Health Care; Is Pregnancy a Disease?

Posted on 03/10/2012 8:26:35 AM PST by pinochet

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For a very tiny number of women "the pill" is healthcare because they have hormone irregularities. For the vast majority of women, they are merely a lifestyle item.

I heard some female activist on Hannity trying to attack Catholic institutions' position in this debate by comparing contraception to Viagra. That one is restorative of normal function and the other contravenes normal function is beyond these activists capacity for intellectual honesty.

As it is, who is trying to argue in favor of free viagra? All we hear about are demands from women, women, women. Never mind that women are longer lived and more likely to seek out healthcare than men.

Never mind contraceptives of many forms are available inexpensively everywhere and no one including Santorum is trying to ban then--something the Supreme Court ruled decades ago cannot be done at the state level.

This is the most dishonest "national debate" we've had in a long time because one side is allowed to frame not only their arguments but their straw man version of the opposition.

The only genuine breaking through I've seen was Newt's appearance on last Sunday's shows. The other candidates still routinely accept the media's premises and try to argue within the box they're placed.

21 posted on 03/10/2012 9:58:09 AM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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The US gov't is not giving out free BC just requiring that insurance companies cover it.

A distinction without a difference.

Where do men line up for their insurance-covered condoms? They not only work as contraceptives but offer protection against disease. Thus they are a better value to the insurance company and yet no one is making that argument. You would be heckled for even trying.

That's how you know this isn't really about healthcare or fundamental human rights despite the Left's rhetoric. All we hear about in this "debate" are women from the sex-positive agenda like Ms. Fluke. Also notice, men aren't even allowed to voice an alternative viewpoint or question the underlying assumptions without being demagogued.

It's crass politics, an attempt to buy votes of the majority gender by gross manipulation, by appealing to the worst stereotypes and seeding a false narrative they are somehow being deprived of human rights by being asked to take personal responsibility and pay that same $9 per month for birth control as today.

22 posted on 03/10/2012 10:22:21 AM PST by newzjunkey (Santorum: 18-point loss, voted for Sotomayor, proposed $550M on top of $900M Amtrak budget...)
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(first, sorry for the day late comment & now to your thread)

I am sick and tired of hearing contraceptives being described as a form of health care. In my opinion, contraceptives are a form of cosmetic product
Unfortunately, 'contraceptives', specifically 'The Pill' is part of 'Health Care'. Like many medications developed primarily to treat one thing Doctors and researchers have found many medications also treat another completely different 'health issue'.

'The Pill' being one of those 'medications'. Besides it being a contraceptive it is also prescribed to regulate a woman's menstrual cycle, and it works.

I take a medicine that was develped to stop epileptic seizures but I don't have seizures or epilepsy. It was found that my medication also treats Nerve Pain, which I DO have. I's from scar tissue that grew on a disc after a Laminectomy years ago and now hits a nerve (called Spinal Stenosis) . The pain is like Sciatica Pain x104, but this medicine eases it considerably (though I still need pain meds too).

And that's why Mzzz Fluke takes the Pill, to 'regulate her cycle', because she'll never get pregnant as she (cough 'allegedly') 'bats for the other team' ;-). That being said nobody should be mandated to provide it for her, especially when it conflicts with the First Amendment.

23 posted on 03/11/2012 5:10:32 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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