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2012 America's Party Platform ratified in convention [Feb. 18, 2012]
America's Party ^ | Feb. 18, 2012

Posted on 02/19/2012 3:53:59 AM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: EternalVigilance
It’s obvious you’re not honestly seeking the truth of this matter. That becomes more apparent with every post you make.

In other words, you’ve been stringing me along and wasting my time for several days.

This is pretty much the norm when it comes to those intent on maintaining the status quo on abortion.

121 posted on 02/27/2012 4:51:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Indeed.

The Republican Party uber alles. That’s their schtick.

And it’s destroying this free republic.


122 posted on 02/27/2012 4:53:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We're living in a country in which General Motors is considered a person, but a baby isn't.)
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To: EternalVigilance
They want the issue, but they don't want any resolution.

The Whigs did exactly the same thing with slavery.

123 posted on 02/27/2012 4:56:32 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: EternalVigilance
It’s obvious you’re not honestly seeking the truth of this matter.

It's obvious you're not honestly speaking the truth.

You were directly challenged repeatedly to clarify if you had or had not actually read the law... and you INTENTIONALLY AND DECEPTIVELY concealed the fact that you HAD NOT.

It would have only slightly weakened your position, had you chose to simply admit the truth and move on.

You might have even been able to argue that your PRESUMPTION regarding the language of that law was reasonable based on similar state laws, if you had only admitted that YOU WERE IN FACT PRESUMING regarding the federal in the first place.

To whatever degree this conversation has gotten "off point", it is only because you chose to be intellectually dishonest, and I called you on it.

I have, in fact, made my case regarding how your legal theory is flawed, and with rare exception, I can not see where you have responded to my arguments in that regard.

I also noticed a post of yours, I have yet to respond to... I will do so now.

124 posted on 02/27/2012 5:26:45 PM PST by OHelix
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To: EternalVigilance
Do you think it would be moral, or legal, or constitutional to pass laws which said you could put a forty-five slug in the heart of a paraplegic? After all, they wouldn’t feel a thing!

Of course not.

Do you think it would be moral, or legal, or constitutional to pass laws which said you could bludgeon Grandma to death if you had given her enough morphine first. After all, they wouldn’t feel a thing!

Of course not... but...

If both of those examples were already allowed under the law of the land and being practiced day to day

If both had adequate political support to prevent their complete repeal

If there was a law that would ban the first example, consequently saving all the parapalegics from death, and would have adequate support for passage, but only if it left the second example intact

I would consider it INSANELY PERVERTED to justify opposing that law on the "constitutional grounds" that the law "denies grandma equal protection under the law"

The fact is, the hypothetical EXISTING LAW denies both paraplegics and grandma their constitutional "right to life" and "right to equal protection"... NOT the new law.

Your convoluted logic concludes NOT that the new law RESTORES those rights to one group, but FALSELY that it DENIES them to the other.

That is sickeningly BASS-ACKWARDS to put it mildly.

125 posted on 02/27/2012 5:57:28 PM PST by OHelix
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To: OHelix

You’re clueless about how it actually works.

When you sacrifice the core principles of equality and God-given, unalienable rights on the altar of political and “legal” expediency, you’re left with nothing, absolutely nothing, with which to fight.

The best analogy I can think of would be if a soldier threw away all of his weapons, stripped down buck naked, and then walked into Afghanistan all by himself while telling you how he was going to go kill all of the Taliban.

That’s how much sense what you’re saying makes.

Exceptions opened the door to abortion on demand in this country, and they keep the door wide open to this day. That’s a fact, Jack. Equal protection means equal protection. Destroy that, and no one’s rights are safe. Destroy that, and you’ve nuked the foundations of this republic.

The only path back is to return to the principles upon which this republic, and our claim to liberty, are premised. To reexamine and recommit ourselves to the stated purposes of our Constitution, which are violated in every detail by the practices of abortion and euthanasia. To demand once again that the sacred oath to fulfill the explicit, imperative requirements of the Constitution be fulfilled by every officer of government, in every branch, at every level.

If you keep ignoring the principles, you’re part of the problem, not part of the principled leadership that will be required to deliver the free republic that was bequeathed to us to our children and grandchildren.


126 posted on 02/27/2012 6:21:18 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We're living in a country in which General Motors is considered a person, but a baby isn't.)
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