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GOVERNOR WRONG TO HAVE FLAG LOWERED TO HALF STAFF FOR CELEBRITIES
NJLawman.com---Police and Law Enforcement News ^ | 2-16-2012 | Editorial

Posted on 02/18/2012 5:40:00 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: smoothsailing
he can lower his state flag if he wants to cause it belongs to NJ, but... the Stars and Stripes does NOT!!!

dumb move

21 posted on 02/18/2012 6:00:49 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Flightdeck
No it isn’t. This is barely a topic at all, let alone an important one.

Really? Twenty posts and counting. Does that tell you that some of us are interested??

22 posted on 02/18/2012 6:03:42 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. - Ayn Rand)
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To: smoothsailing
*Only the president of the United States or the Governor of the state may order the flag to be at half-staff to honor the death of a national or state figure. In addition to the traditional half-staff salutes, the Flag Code mentions the use of our Flag for honoring leading citizens such as Martin Luther King, Jr.

*Private citizens and non government buildings may choose to fly their flags at half staff to honor more local leaders. The Flag Code does not exclude any citizen, whether they belong to an organization or not, whether they are recognized very locally or regionally. Examples of deceased citizens that might be honored with by lowering the Flag to half-staff include local religious leaders, youth leaders, honored teachers or sports coaches, local politicians, or a local hero. There need be no authorization from the government for the private sector (non-government) to use the Flag to honor any citizen.

*It is important to note that the Flag Code is a code, it is intended to provide guidance and is not obligatory. It carries no civil or criminal penalties for "misuse" of the Flag. Individual are not acting illegally when using the Flag according to their own usage. Only on government / public building is the flag code required to be followed.

Read more: http://www.gettysburgflag.com/FlyFlagHalfMast.php#ixzz1mmvgacf3

23 posted on 02/18/2012 6:03:42 PM PST by madison10
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To: smoothsailing

I couldn’t agree more with the editorial.

There are people in every profession that do an outstanding job of whatever they do, that doesn’t mean they deserve to have the U.S. Flag lowered to half staff to honor them in death.

Old Glory is a symbol of freedom and patriotism, let those be honored by lowering Her to half staff that have sacrificed for those virtues.


24 posted on 02/18/2012 6:05:22 PM PST by jazusamo (Character assassination is just another form of voter fraud: Thomas Sowell)
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To: YankeeReb

Clarence Clemens of the E Street Band

I don’t even know who he was. What exceptional thing did he do for his country?


25 posted on 02/18/2012 6:06:36 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: smoothsailing
Who the hell cares one way or another? Our once free nation is morphing into a totalitarian police state.

26 posted on 02/18/2012 6:07:51 PM PST by I see my hands (The old sod ne'er shall be forgot.)
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To: Chode

The only way a Governor can force the flag to be flown at half-staff is by dying.

Something we here in Illinois have been known to wish for!


27 posted on 02/18/2012 6:09:17 PM PST by bigbob
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To: smoothsailing
"Governors of the several U.S. states or territories are authorized by federal law to order all U.S. and state flags in their jurisdiction flown at half-staff as a mark of respect for a state official or resident who has died. Since a governor's executive order affects only his or her state, not the entire country, these orders are distinguished from presidential proclamation"

1989, Houston formed The Whitney Houston Foundation For Children, a non-profit organization that has raised funds for the needs of children around the world. The organization cares for homelessness, children with cancer or AIDS, and other issues of self-empowerment.

[1991, Houston put together her Welcome Home Heroes concert with HBO for the soldiers fighting in the Persian Gulf War and their families. The free concert took place at Naval Station Norfolk in Norfolk, Virginia in front of 3,500 servicemen and women. HBO descrambled the concert so that it was free for everyone to watch.[90] Houston's concert gave HBO its highest ratings ever

1990, Houston was the spokesperson for a youth leadership conference hosted in Washington, D.C. She had a private audience with President George H. W. Bush in the Oval Office to discuss the associated challenges.

[WIKI]

Give it a rest.

28 posted on 02/18/2012 6:10:01 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: bonfire

Perhaps it is to honor one of your state’s fallen service men or women.

In our state of Michigan, whenever a person from our state is killed in combat, the flag is lowered to half staff. The Governor orders the flag moved. It is on our state’s website listed as “Half-Staff Flag Alerts.” It is law put into effect in our state in 2006. Given the number of wars/conflicts/battles going on maybe it’s not so unusual for the flags to seem to be lowered so often.


29 posted on 02/18/2012 6:11:50 PM PST by madison10
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To: smoothsailing

Agree, smooth.


30 posted on 02/18/2012 6:11:56 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Flightdeck

With due respect, suggest you reconsider that comment in light of the words of the National Anthem, and the thousands who have died with those words in mind.


31 posted on 02/18/2012 6:12:19 PM PST by bigbob
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To: smoothsailing

As a former Federal prosecutor I should think this fat-ass, Lou Costello look-alike f**king RINO governor of my state would be looking into where and from whom Ms. Houston got her crack from.


32 posted on 02/18/2012 6:12:45 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: I see my hands

Love the folks who care enough to post that they don’t care and YOU shouldn’t care to post that you DO care.

Thanks for caring!

(and bumping to the top!)


33 posted on 02/18/2012 6:13:51 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Chode
New Jersey and the Stars and Stripes PREDATE this very nation.

BTW, I've saved several lives from certain death over the years. Did heroic work to save them.

They regularly lower flags for people with fewer accomplishments ~ administrative types in fact.

I don't begrudge anybody a lowered flag when they're dead.

This jealousy so many here are displaying of THE DEAD is bizarre. You can take yourself there in moments if you wish. See if anybody cares.

34 posted on 02/18/2012 6:15:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: smoothsailing

Not a peep of complaint when Frank Sanatra was given the flag at half mast. I think Christie can do as he choses in his state. Wait until Bruce Springsteen drops...it will be flag at half mast for a year.


35 posted on 02/18/2012 6:16:49 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: madison10

Yes, there are vets in this particular cemetary. I just assume this is why the flag is at half staff 24/7 360 days a year.

Who knows? I’ve even asked our council and they all look dumbfounded!


36 posted on 02/18/2012 6:16:54 PM PST by bonfire
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To: smoothsailing
The moderate republicans always make decision through an emotional prism. This to me, just degraded what flying the flag is for.. (call me old fashioned) I sure hope they don't try to put him on the ticket.
37 posted on 02/18/2012 6:22:27 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: madison10; jazusamo; Girlene; Chode

Flag Etiquette

Half Staff Displays


From the Nov.-Dec. 1994 National Flag Foundations "Standard Bearer" Magazine.
This article remains the copyrighted material of the National Flag Foundation and is presented here by permission.


Flying the flag at half-staff is an area of flag etiquette that most people want to make sure they get right. It is also an area for which the road to error is routinely paved with good intentions. With that in mind, we offer this refresher course as the all-important intersection where knowledge meets benevolence.

FLYING THE FLAG AT HALF-STAFF: The pertinent section of the Flag Code says, "by order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possesion, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law.

In the event of the death a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that state, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff." The code also includes other related details including the specific length of time during which the flag should be displayed at half-staff, in the event of the death of a "principal figure"(e.g., 30 days for the death of a sitting or former President, 10 days for the death of a sitting Vice-President,etc.).

GOOD-FAITH MISUNDERSTANDINGS: Although the code is actually pretty clear, confusion continues to occur. For example, U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno recently ordered the American Flag flown at half-staff on all U.S. Department of Justice buildings, in honor of several DEA agents who had died. While NFF understands this gesture, the Flag Code does not give Attorney General Reno the authority to issue that order. Closer to NFF's Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania home, Mayor Tom Murphy ordered all flags flown at half-staff to honor the victims of a plane crash. Here again, a well-intentioned gesture, but one for which no authority exists. NFF points out these "good-faith misunderstandings" not to criticize or embarrass anyone, but rather to head off a growing trivialization of this memorial salute, and to preserve the dignity and significance of flying the U.S. flag at half-staff. To any readers who may think that NFF is insensitive for raising these breaches of etiquette, please be assured that our motives are pure. We grieve these human loses deeply; however, we believe proper respect for our flag must be maintained - no matter the circumstances.

We owe that respect to our living, our dead and our flag.

National Flag Foundation

38 posted on 02/18/2012 6:22:42 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I am reminded that her rendition of our National Anthem for the Super Bowl was among the best at a time when it was needed, the Gulf War. This, in my mind, may be a solid reason. I, however, missed it as I was a very busy Marine SSgt. doing my duty in Desert Shield / Desert Storm.


39 posted on 02/18/2012 6:26:36 PM PST by Allah AtBar
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To: smoothsailing

I am reminded that her rendition of our National Anthem for the Super Bowl was among the best at a time when it was needed, the Gulf War. This, in my mind, may be a solid reason. I, however, missed it as I was a very busy Marine SSgt. doing my duty in Desert Shield / Desert Storm.


40 posted on 02/18/2012 6:26:54 PM PST by Allah AtBar
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