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Deputy Says He Shot 'Irrational' Marine to Protect Kids in Car
Camp Pendleton Patch ^
| February 10, 2012
| Roy Rivenburg
Posted on 02/11/2012 10:25:42 AM PST by brityank
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To: dragnet2; All
Amormino said the incident began when a deputy was parked at San Clemente High, writing reports in his patrol car, and saw a Chevrolet Yukon speed by on Avenido Pico. The Yukon turned into the school parking lot and crashed through a barrier gate.
The deputy pulled his patrol car behind the Yukon and Loggins got out. The deputy gave some commands to Loggins, who walked toward the athletic field, then back to his SUV, Amormino said.
He said the deputy radioed for backup at some point, then something happened that prompted the deputy to open fire. A sheriffs sergeant arrived after the shooting.
Loggins was taken to Mission Hospital in Mission Viejo, where he died.
Still no info from daughters, or whether the lights and siren were activated.
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posted on
02/11/2012 12:28:05 PM PST
by
brityank
(The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
To: Krankor; dragnet2
Ill play detective. The cop was alseep. The marine pulled into the lot to take a whiz, hit the gate, got out, went into field to relieve himself. Cop hears crash and wakes up. He drives over to investigate, sees a black man coming out of the field and returning to his car. He tells him to stop. Maybe the marine doesnt know hes a cop or just doesnt doesnt listen, gets in the car to drive away and groggy cop shoots him. Im betting the marine was dead before the cop claimed he was stopping him for hit and run and child endangerment. I do not disagree. Just the statement he fired into the Yukon with no regard to the danger he placed the children in tells me this stinks to high heaven.
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posted on
02/11/2012 12:33:47 PM PST
by
brityank
(The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
To: brityank
Or it’s possible the marine was just pulling in the lot to turn around and he hit the gate. He got out to look at the damage, suddenly a car pulls up, a guy jumps out, tells him not to move, the marine gets in the car to get the heck out of there and protect his kids, cop shoots him, then sees the kids in the backseat and makes up the child endangerment story. I’m guessing the cop was taking 40 winks when he heard the crash and he drove over to investigate. Of course, it’s also possible the marine was having some kind of mental episode
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posted on
02/11/2012 12:42:19 PM PST
by
Krankor
(It's time you started thinking inside your head, that you should you stand up and fight.)
To: brityank
Sounds like the black Marine shot by the white cop was a societal success. The black community will not riot.
To: dragnet2
I didn’t catch the part where the deputy drew his gun and ordered the man out of the truck. When did the deputy decide to draw his gun?
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posted on
02/11/2012 12:47:33 PM PST
by
peeps36
(America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
To: brityank
Don’t police carry batons and tasers anymore?
To: brityank
“He said the deputy radioed for backup at some point, then something happened that prompted the deputy to open fire.”
Thanks for that very informative news article - those journalist sure can sniff out the details.
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posted on
02/11/2012 12:56:11 PM PST
by
21twelve
To: Krankor; dragnet2; smokingfrog; JaguarXKE; Jack Hydrazine; Bob; TigersEye; RedMDer; Altariel; ...
VIDEO and TV News Report
KABC-7 | Suspect shot by OC deputy was US Marine
They have a 2:30min. report showing the Yukon being trucked out in the morning. There is NO DAMAGE to the front end from a 'collision' with a gate or fence.
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posted on
02/11/2012 12:56:30 PM PST
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posted on
02/11/2012 12:57:07 PM PST
by
TheOldLady
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To: sport
The group I thought we’d find here are the pro-CPS folks, who would argue that anything is justifiable if you think kids are at risk.
To: Krankor; dragnet2; smokingfrog; JaguarXKE; Jack Hydrazine; Bob; TigersEye; RedMDer; Altariel
Might help to give the link:
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:00:39 PM PST
by
brityank
(The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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Loggins was from Joliet, Ill., and joined the Marines in 1998. He had a reputation as being a deeply religious (Christian) man who put a premium on his family and his work.
Aaron Banks, 28, who served with Loggins for a year in Hawaii, described him as a "poster boy" for the Marines.
"He was everything I wanted to be as far as a Marine and a person," Banks, of South El Monte, said. "He basically schooled me up."
He said he and his colleagues are confused by the shooting. "We're all upset," he said.
Sgt. James Chavis, 28, who also served with Loggins in Hawaii, said he was equally surprised.
"Manny was not one of those people who disobeyed commands," he said.
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:01:00 PM PST
by
Riodacat
(And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
To: elvis-lives
Well, I would like to hear his side of the story before we assume that everything the officer said was true.
oh wait, he’s dead, so I guess we won’t be getting HIS statement now....
To: brityank; dragnet2; All
Looked again - there IS DAMAGE to the left front headlight, and blue paint transfer on the lower left bumper. Loggins likely got out to see what he’d hit.
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:07:09 PM PST
by
brityank
(The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
To: brityank; elvis-lives
They have a 2:30min. report showing the Yukon being trucked out in the morning. There is NO DAMAGE to the front end from a 'collision' with a gate or fence.
Remember what I mentioned up thread?
crashing into a gate with his two daughters
Even that version changed. Initially, it was, "He crashed THROUGH a gate. Now it's "into".
Now there is no obvious damage?
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:12:19 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: brityank
Their original version changed. Initially, it was, "He crashed THROUGH a gate. Now it's "into".
The damage you are seeing is extremely minor, and what one would expect would happen in a minor parking lot bump/ incident.
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:18:48 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: brityank
Note the drivers side window is blown out.
Clearly the deputy was not standing in front of the marines vehicle, bit was standing on the drivers side door when the marine was shot to death.
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:24:43 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: elvis-lives
But this guy driiving at a high rate of speed, crashing into a gate with his two daughters strapped in the back seat at 4:40 in the morning and refusing to obey legitimate commands of a law enforcement officer isnt making you curious?Is the following your comment at the The Camp Pendleton Patch?
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Elvis
4 hours ago
Yeah, no weapon a 3500 lb car couldn't possibly be a weapon, huh? The fact that the child was in the back proves the Marine had no regard for anybody's safety. If the Marine will gravely endanger his own daughter, do you really think he would take a second thought about taking out a bunch of people?
Police officers have a tough job that takes split second decisions. They don't decide whether or not somebody wants a bag or not. Lives hang in the balance. You want justice? Then support the decision to take potentially take a life to save many.
This I am sure was not and has not been easy for the deputy. He has to not only live with his decision, but listen to all of you people call him out. When you go through you day today and the toughest question you ask yourself is blue cheese or Italian. Think about how hard a life changing decision that is.
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:25:29 PM PST
by
Ken H
(Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
To: Ken H; elvis-lives
Good find. It appears elvis, if this is the same elvis, is totally ignoring that fact that never once did OCSD alleged the marine was attempting to run over the deputy.
In fact, when the marine was shot to death, the deputy shot straight through the drivers side window.
In fact the Sheriff's original version of events alleged the deputy feared for his life.
The new version is the deputy feared for the kid's lives.
OCSD bull sh** is up to the rooftops here.
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:32:52 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: brityank
Well, they say everything is on the dashcam tape, so we’ll see. You would think if the whole thing was clear cut, they’d release the tape to alleviate any possible racial tensions. Then again, perhaps there’s some kind of legal procedure that has to be followed before they can release it. By the same token, if it was clear cut, I don’t know why the spokesman wouldn’t mention the dashcam tape. Instead, he seems to be concentrating on the officer’s “perceived threat”. I’m still bothered by the fact the cop was in the lot “writing reports”. If you’re allowed to do that while on patrol, I’m sure the cop would have to call it in- I know Reed and Malloy would.
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posted on
02/11/2012 1:33:59 PM PST
by
Krankor
(It's time you started thinking inside your head, that you should you stand up and fight.)
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