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THE TRIAL IS OVER: SSGT WUTERICH PLEADS GUILTY TO ONE COUNT OF NEGLIGENT DERELICTION OF DUTY
Defend Our Marines ^ | January 23, 2012 | Nathaniel R. Helms and David Allender

Posted on 01/23/2012 7:08:17 PM PST by RedRover

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To: smoothsailing
“He knows that his Marine Corps career has come to an end.”

A few other careers likewise came to an end thanks to the cowardice of the scumbag Pentagon and the scumbag political whores, all of whom ran like scared bunny rabbits from a slimy propaganda piece slopped together by a worm named Tim McGirk and published in a dying, liberal magazine. Wow.

In this way, those scum handed the enemy a victory on a silver platter.

81 posted on 01/24/2012 2:32:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; RedRover; jazusamo; xzins; stylin19a; Girlene; darrylsharratt; All

JUST BREAKING NOW:

MARINE GETS NO JAIL TIME

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57365179/marine-gets-no-jail-time-for-haditha-killings/


82 posted on 01/24/2012 3:26:34 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard; smoothsailing; xzins; Girlene; jazusamo; lilycicero; All

Sentence: 90 days incarceration, reduction to E-1, no lost pay.

But the convening authority says no confinement so there will be no jail time.

Waiting for press conference. Not sure about terms of discharge. More later.


83 posted on 01/24/2012 3:30:23 PM PST by RedRover
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover

Thank God no jail time, Frank Wuterich can get on with his life.


84 posted on 01/24/2012 3:36:46 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing

He took one for he Marine Corps. and the Marines know it.

The Iraqis are going ape-spit.


85 posted on 01/24/2012 3:41:56 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: jazusamo
About 15 minutes ago Fox said Wuterich will not have to do any time.
86 posted on 01/24/2012 3:43:15 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Obama.....a perfect example of why you can't trust someone that won't look you in the eye)
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To: RedRover; smoothsailing; Lancey Howard; xzins; stylin19a; Girlene; darrylsharratt; All
Puckett and Faraj Sentencing Argument for SSgt Wuterich
87 posted on 01/24/2012 3:43:55 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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The Iraqis are going ape-spit.

About 15 minutes ago Fox said Wuterich will not have to do any time.

I'll bet they are along with most of the enemedia. It's good to see the word getting out so soon.

88 posted on 01/24/2012 3:49:20 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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To: stylin19a

Sure they are. Lights, camera, action. Let’s all get on CNN.

This is on the heads of those who in the media, the government, and the military who should have said, this was no massacre.


89 posted on 01/24/2012 3:50:47 PM PST by RedRover
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene
In Iraq, residents of the Euphrates river town of Haditha were angered by the fact that not one of the eight Marines initially charged will be convicted of manslaughter. A survivor of the killings, Awis Fahmi Hussein, showed his scars from being hit by a bullet in the back. "I was expecting that the American judiciary would sentence this person to life in prison and that he would appear and confess in front of the whole world that he committed this crime, so that America could show itself as democratic and fair," he said.

Like the little girl who knew the bomb was set to go off, there are citizens of this stretch of Haditha who know they were firing on these Marines that morning.

They know that Wuterich's complete exhoneration would have been justice, and that America's judicial system failed one of it's warriors.

But, they know, and they will answer some day.

90 posted on 01/24/2012 4:16:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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Not sure about terms of discharge.

It's my understanding that discharge is an entirely seperate issue. It is an administrative function and can not be part of the plea agreement.

91 posted on 01/24/2012 4:24:36 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: xzins

Rageboy and The Angry Arab News Service/وكالة أنباء العربي الغاضب (aka TIME magazine) will be up to their phony stunt indignation for days to come.

Thanks McGirk, thanks Murtha, thanks lamestream media and Pentagon perfumed princes.

92 posted on 01/24/2012 5:00:04 PM PST by smoothsailing
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..90 days incarceration... no confinement so there will be no jail time.

???

I don't think I understand this.

93 posted on 01/24/2012 5:00:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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House arrest???


94 posted on 01/24/2012 5:02:20 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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From the article by Tony Perry at LA Times. The judge doesn't know the terms of the plea bargain beforehand, evidently

Jones said the plea bargain approved by Lt. Gen. Thomas Waldhauser called for no jail time.

Jones said that he planned to recommend 90 days in the brig, the maximum as requested by the prosecution, but that Waldhauser's approval of the details of the plea bargain trumps that recommendation.

Marine gets no jail time in killing of 24 Iraqi civilians

95 posted on 01/24/2012 5:13:12 PM PST by jazusamo (If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
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Here is Mark Walker's story, from the North County Times:

MILITARY: Wuterich reduced in rank, but jail term set aside

Marine Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich was reduced in rank to private Tuesday after pleading guilty to one count of negligent dereliction of duty, ending the largest war-crimes prosecution to emerge from the Iraq war.

At the sentencing Tuesday, military judge Lt. Col. David Jones ordered Wuterich to serve 90 days in jail, but that was set aside under the terms of a plea agreement reached Monday. The details of the agreement were revealed after the judge rendered his sentence.

(Click link for rest of Walker's story)
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The details of the agreement were revealed after the judge rendered his sentence.

Jones intended for Wuterich to do the max time in jail.
Jones is a worthless piece of shit.

96 posted on 01/24/2012 5:15:53 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I don’t have the full story from Nat yet but my understanding is that SSgt Wuterich was given a sentence as a formality and incarceration was commuted by decision of the convening authority.

Like being sentenced in court and then having it instantly commuted.

This must have been part of the plea agreement. Details as soon as I have them!


97 posted on 01/24/2012 5:19:42 PM PST by RedRover
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the reply. We almost cross-posted. I saw in Walker’s story the same thing you pointed out - - that sick, cowardly scumbag Jones wanted to bring the hammer down on Frank. That pre-approved plea agreement was a smart idea by the defense team, who could obviously see what a piece of shit Jones is.


98 posted on 01/24/2012 5:22:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover
...incarceration was commuted by decision of the convening authority.

If the "convening authority" was Jones, then he had nothing to do with it. That sick, cowardly scumbag apparently wanted Wuterich in jail for the max time allowable (90 days). See jazusamo's post @ #95.

99 posted on 01/24/2012 5:31:00 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; RedRover; jazusamo; smoothsailing; Girlene

Jones has me PO’d for the reduction to E-1.

The fact is that this was a buck sergeant’s first time in combat. The fact also is that Wuterich clearly said his intention in “shoot first, questions later” was to push his men to stay safe by staying on the attack and NOT to injure civilians.

A buck sergeant’s first time in combat, and he was saying something that is damn close to the ROEs which were “reasonable PID + protect personal safety”.

The combination of those two is far different that “absolute PID”.

It clearly puts the weight of the ROEs on the side of personal security and not on the side of risking your life to get a PID.

Any imbecile can see that, can read what was going on in this young buck sergeant’s mind, and can absolutely see that there was ZERO crime committed that day by SSgt Wuterich.

Patton would have given him a damn medal, and Lincoln would have given him a commission.

The US military, circa 2012, besmirches their honor and would prefer assigning all troops pink PJs and sensitivity classes to get in touch with their inner femininity.


100 posted on 01/24/2012 5:31:00 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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