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Perry Draws Attention to Santorum’s Catholicism (in fairness more to his vote on Sotomayor]
National Review Online ^ | January 17, 2012 | Brian Bolduc

Posted on 01/18/2012 2:09:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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"Here’s the quotation that’s getting the most attention:

“Rick Santorum is a good man. He is a good father. He is a good Catholic. But he hasn’t always been a good conservative. And I make exceptions with his vote for Sonya Sotomayor as a for instance. That is a really liberal jurist that he helped put on track to become a Supreme Court jurist back when he voted to allow her to be on the Appellate Court. I mean, she is pro-abortion, would be my estimation of that. I mean, Obama is a very liberal president and she is reflective of his philosophy. So, I mean, there were 29 conservatives that voted against her. People like Strom Thurmond and Rick voted for her. So the idea that, you know, he is a pure social conservative, this flies right in the face of it … On the fiscal side, Rick, he has a horrid record when it comes to earmarks and defending spending. The idea that you can vote for all those earmarks and call yourself a fiscal conservative is just ludicrous on its face. That is why we have a tea party today. … So like I said, good man, good father and husband, good Catholic, but not always a good conservative.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: catholic; conservatism; gopprimary; holierthanthou; perry2012; perry2016; perry2020; religioncard; santorum2012; stromthurmond
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There’s no “AND” about it.

Gotta get over the fact that Rick Perry is not going to be the nominee. He may be whatever you say he is but he’s not going anywhere but back to Texas.

The election in November is not a referendum on conservative values or outsider bona fides or who is Catholic or who voted for Sotomayor.

It is, first and foremost, about moving Obama on to the next phase of his life. Period.


41 posted on 01/18/2012 3:46:11 AM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: JDW11235
Even stranger is this ridiculous idea that Governors make jobs. They cannot create a single job. They can only stop stomping on job producers. Politicans are the same as parents who’s kids get an A in school and then say “Look how many A’s I got.”

No. You create an atmosphere where people will invest their money. Like Perry has done by rolling back regulations, moved against over-litigation, passed tort reform (fair and predictable taxes and regulations with the expectation they will improve even more) and has, is and will continue to challenge Federal agencies that are battling the right of Texas to control their own affairs.

42 posted on 01/18/2012 3:46:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: trumandogz; JDW11235
And, you must remember that in 2008 Rick Perry endorsed Rudy Giuliani and Romney is this year’s Rudy.

You and JDW11235 make a nice anti-Perry tag-team.

A lot of Texas side-stepped McCain and/or supported Rudy in that primary election.

This is an interesting article about where Texas' campaign money and support was going in '08. Things just aren't back and white. Texas donors on fence for 2008 election

Rick Perry endorsed Rudy because of his strong prosecution record, his turn-around of NYC and his stand against our enemies in the WOT.

43 posted on 01/18/2012 3:48:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: trumandogz

Yep, I’m pretty sure that he is Mitt’s stalking horse. You don’t get much more establishment, than being in BOTH parties (or two heads of the single party, if you will). Perry’s been playing both sides of the political fence for his entire adult life. I worked more in the private sector as a kid than he has his entire adult life.

“I have seen middle school student council campaigns that have been managed better.

Me too, and they didn’t have the audacity to call people heartless racists/bigots. But then again, they were trying to win, and it’s increasingly clear that he’s not.


44 posted on 01/18/2012 3:50:47 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: O6ret

There’s no “AND” about it.

Gotta get over the fact that Rick Perry is not going to be the nominee. He may be whatever you say he is but he’s not going anywhere but back to Texas.

The election in November is not a referendum on conservative values or outsider bona fides or who is Catholic or who voted for Sotomayor.

It is, first and foremost, about moving Obama on to the next phase of his life. Period.


45 posted on 01/18/2012 3:51:07 AM PST by O6ret
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To: O6ret

“He may be whatever you say he is but he’s not going anywhere but back to Texas.”

I think that may be what they’re most afraid of, having him be honest (rather than the liar he is), and fulfill his term as Governor. The horror.


46 posted on 01/18/2012 3:54:05 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You give a whole lot of credit to Rick Perry for the Texas economy.

If that is the case are you also willing to give Houston Mayor Annise Parker credit since Houston has the fastest-growing economy in North America?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2834324/posts


47 posted on 01/18/2012 3:56:11 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: JDW11235; Cincinatus' Wife

Rick Perry is supported by several decorated military heroes and wounded warriors.

Are they “paid”?

Lets have you blow them off and insult them like you do anyone who supports him.

Let’s hear it.

He served his country in the AF and left with Captain’s rank.

He farmed cotton as a tenant farmer with his dad...his dad flew 35 missions over Nazi Germany in 1944 as a Tailgunner in the B-17..., went to church like his mom told him to, and became an Eagle Scout.

He has a 60% approval rating in Texas as the Governor.

Got any true facts to back up your bile?

In a word, nope. Just a load of ugly spin.

And I don’t get paid a dime for supporting Rick Perry.

Sheriff Joe endorsed Rick Perry. Is HE “paid”?


48 posted on 01/18/2012 3:56:28 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Balony. He’s the Governor of Texas. They had their National convention in Texas and he accepted.

Do you criticize preachers who preach to sinners where they are?

Governor Perry didn’t join La Taxa. He didn’t praise them for their “sins.”

He didn’t change his positions when he spoke to them. He pointed out common ground and advocated cooperation where we agree

Perhaps he converted a few.


49 posted on 01/18/2012 3:58:11 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: txrangerette

Nobody’s going to be paid by him soon. He’s about to jump out. He probably regrets saying he’d go to SC after his utter blowout in Iowa. Money didn’t buy him a slot there, and it’s surely not going to buy him a slot anywhere else. Get your “Welcome Back” signs out, it’s only days away.


50 posted on 01/18/2012 3:59:50 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The NRO author is distorting the focus if he claims that Perry was commenting on Catholics. The focus of this paragrgh is conservatism and consistancy.


51 posted on 01/18/2012 4:01:51 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: txrangerette

“He has a 60% approval rating in Texas as the Governor.”

If Rick Perry has a 60% approval rating in Texas, why is it that only 18% of Texas Republicans support him for the GOP nomination?

BTW-can you cite the poll that states that Perry has a 60% approval rating?


52 posted on 01/18/2012 4:05:32 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz; Cincinatus' Wife

Houston is in Texas, last time I checked.

Are you willing to give the Governor of Texas credit if you think the mayor of Houston deserves any?

The real issue with you is Perry hate.

Win or lose, Perry’s a decent man with a decent family and a good Texas lifestyle. Nobody can take away that he’s served as the Governor of this great state, and served his country in its military. There is a light, an aura, a joy about his person that many people who gravitate toward him have witnessed. Therefore he will do fine, win or lose for the presidential nomination.

Those spreading misery on Perry threads can’t play in that ballpark of life, because if they could, they would.


53 posted on 01/18/2012 4:10:42 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Palin’s backing of Newt will be a signal for the rest of them to sit down. This is now a race between mitton and the rino’s against the tea party.


54 posted on 01/18/2012 4:12:24 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Rick Perry didn't set up this "stimulus" mess yet you want to blame him. The teachers' are furious because he used it to help balance the budget

Perry willingly participated in accepting the Stimulus funds while criticizing the very same program, which does appear to be hypocritical. However, those Stimulus dollars, much like the Federal earmark funds, were already allocated for spending. Perry did exactly what Santorum did, gaining those dollars for his state, and now he questions Santorum being fiscally conservative? Under that definition, what does that make Perry? You can't have it both ways.

What I've always wondered about Perry's budget, what would have happened to Texas had Perry not had the option of accepting those Stimulus funds? Likely, instead of a doubling of the Texas debt, it would have quadrupled.

55 posted on 01/18/2012 4:12:32 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: trumandogz

Do you think voting for Sotomayor was a good thing or that Thurmond could do no wrong?


56 posted on 01/18/2012 4:12:36 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org: Have mustard seed & I'm not afraid to use it. 2 men inherited a Bush economy.)
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To: txrangerette

I do not give politicians credit for the success of private industry.

BTW- Could you please find the poll that shows that Rick Perry has a 60% approval rating in Texas?


57 posted on 01/18/2012 4:14:17 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: hocndoc

Strom Thumond voting for Sotomayor may have been misguided, but going into S. Carolina in a Republican primary and condemning a vote by Strom Thumond is not all that bright.


59 posted on 01/18/2012 4:21:16 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

“Tell you what, you go up to one of the honored military heroes who support him, one of the wounded warriors who support him, and you tell them to their faces the crud that you say about Governor Perry.”

Ah yes, the old “my dad can beat up your dad” schoolyard banter. Not merely a logical fallacy (appeal to force, see below), but the trademark of a groupie. Then again, Perry doing that exact thing with churches (the original subject of this thread), would lead one to believe that his groupies would do so as well.

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/appeals/appeal-to-force/


60 posted on 01/18/2012 4:23:26 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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