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Treasury dips into pension funds to avoid debt
Reuters ^ | January 17, 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 01/17/2012 6:54:19 PM PST by John W

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To: Linda Frances

Not a good analogy at all. If the sewage were up to the ceiling you would need to walk away, nothing is salvageable no matter how much pumping is done. Of course the current system is also not salvageable, it must and will collapse, I have no idea what will eventually replace it.


81 posted on 01/18/2012 5:27:04 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: businessprofessor

“Do news organizations have an ounce of financial literacy?”
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What news organizations? I can’t think of anything that merits that title. If a Monopoly game is high finance then Reuters is a news organization and no, apparently they have no idea what financial literacy even is, let alone possessing any of it.


82 posted on 01/18/2012 5:33:41 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: mazda77

Hence my comment.


83 posted on 01/18/2012 6:14:09 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: John W

....laugh....


84 posted on 01/18/2012 6:18:02 AM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: John W

The Federal Government is spending money at a level that can literally, objectively be called “High Treason”.


85 posted on 01/18/2012 6:20:46 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: greeneyes
Yes, I think they will come after the 401k’s. They will sell the idea as helping the American people who lost so much when the market tanked, and will restore some or all of that loss @ some designated %, if people liquidate and trade it for a Treasury acct. Or some such scheme.

They don't even have to do that. All they need to do is start a voluntary government annuity system and remove the tax deferral status from all 401(k) funds that fail to convert to the new program.

Most people will convert to avoid the new taxes and those who refuse to convert will get a huge bill for taxes and early withdrawal penalties.

Either way the government has most of the 401(k) money in its hands.

86 posted on 01/18/2012 6:26:43 AM PST by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Prokopton

They have stolen 500 Billion from Medicare

Boehner voted FOR Obamacare?


87 posted on 01/18/2012 6:35:11 AM PST by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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To: Venturer

This is just one more example of why it is not a bad idea to spread investments around, the most important being (in my opinion) having a place to live. Having said that, I don’t believe that the value of Exxon or P7G stock is going to zero.


88 posted on 01/18/2012 6:41:04 AM PST by MSF BU
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To: greeneyes

Outside of gold (and ordnance), where else do you put your hard-earned money?


89 posted on 01/18/2012 6:50:40 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
It's like a drunk limiting himself to 15 drinks, and then raising it to 16.

It's like the country and western song where the guy limits himself to 10 drinks ...

but can't remember the count....so has to start counting again...

90 posted on 01/18/2012 6:51:23 AM PST by spokeshave (Ron Paul finally lit a match after dousing himself with gasoline)
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To: battletank

It was sent to me, so pass it on.


91 posted on 01/18/2012 6:56:16 AM PST by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed.)
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To: PAR35

Irony indeed.

“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money [to spend].”
Margaret Thatcher


92 posted on 01/18/2012 6:57:24 AM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: desertfreedom765

Good one and so true.


93 posted on 01/18/2012 7:00:08 AM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: jiggyboy

Yes, this move by B of A, Merrill Lynch and other member banks of the Federal Reserve was done to shore up already weak credit ratings because it allowed the derivative exposure to be insured by FDIC. It is seen as a move anticipating bankruptcy.

FDIC howled over such moves and were overruled by Geithner at Treasury and by Bernanke’s Federal Reserve.

It was said when these moves were made that it could lead to the Mother of All Bailouts, 50 to 75 trillion or more.

Such moves do indeed put a gun to the head of the Federal Government and thereby the American People to be ready to pay up.

Hence my tag line.


94 posted on 01/18/2012 7:10:25 AM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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To: lonestar
No way, if they tool little Barry's plane away, he would be in a straight jacket within 24 hours. He loves his plane more than anything else in his life and if gets 4 more years Moochelle won't care about criticism and she will be on constant vacations. After all, she is entitled since she was criticized.
Besides, she likes to be called " Your Excellency"
and after all, Barry the Marxist Kenyan was "ready to rule from day one"

96 posted on 01/18/2012 7:17:28 AM PST by mojitojoe (SCOTUS.... think about that when you decide to sit home and pout because your candidate didn't win)
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To: csmusaret
Boehner voted FOR Obamacare?

The House has the ability to defund any program. Boehner has led the House in approving spending for virtually every program of the Obama Agenda.

Sin's of omission are no less sins.

97 posted on 01/18/2012 7:48:26 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

Sin’s of omission are no less sins.

that is the line I use with my children!


98 posted on 01/18/2012 7:51:11 AM PST by superfries
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To: Prokopton

The House does not control spending. All revenue bills have to originate in the House, but they still require passage by the Senate and the President’s signature. You can blame Boehner for lots of things, but stealing $500 Billion from Medicare is not one of them.


99 posted on 01/18/2012 7:59:43 AM PST by csmusaret (The only borders Obama has closed is a bookstore.)
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To: businessprofessor

“If marketable TBills are not honored, the US government has defaulted. The dollar will plunge at that point. However, I doubt that point will ever occur because the US Treasury can just create dollars. However, external parties will stop buying US debt and devalue the dollar.”

External parties have been buying treasuries because there are not many alternatives.

The USA is still seen as a safe haven of sorts.

Inflation is still low.

Treasuries still represent a good place to park money.

In a race to the bottom, the USA is not in the lead, yet.

Of course this situation cannot continue, and the current trend will get worse, much worse.

Revolution, Repeal of the 16th Amendment and the following Tax Reform will mark reversal of the trend:

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq


100 posted on 01/18/2012 8:05:21 AM PST by Hostage (The revolution needs a spark. The Constitution is dead.)
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