Posted on 01/12/2012 4:55:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
78 posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 8:07:58 PM by ansel12
Where did I say that?
In post 52 when you took up the defense of the statement which I had found fault with.
You quoted it “Calling social conservatives liberals that dont like abortion, no difference, is absurd.” and then proceeded to defend the bizarre and ridiculous claim, you have been defending it ever since.
Social conservatives are our most conservative voters,it is a rare social conservative that would vote Democrat, and pretty much never Libertarian, whereas social liberals are drawn to both of those..
I have consistently addressed my criticism to arguments, and tried to refrained from attacking people (per forum guidelines). I have not lied about or misrepresented what someone else has said.
Where did I call anyone "liberal"?
Show me where I did that.
It looks like we are starting all over.
Except it is true about social liberals (Libertarians).
You dont know that social liberals are the back bone of liberalism, of the voters for the Democrat party and its agenda?
You dont know that social conservatives are the back bone of conservatism, and the right?
Do you think it's clever to lie about what I've said, then change the subject when you get called on it?
This just weirder and weirder, suddenly now it is as though we have not been posting to each other at all.
Just go back through the hours of postings and read them again, the entire subject was about your post 52.
It's disgusting, but it's not really weird.
"Calling social conservatives liberals that dont like abortion, no difference, is absurd."
Calling social conservatives liberal is absurd. Yet you have been arguing that point for hours.
Did they teach you to lie like that where you go to church?
Social conservatives have variations, just as fiscal conservatives do. Broaden your apparently narrow horizons just a bit and you might realize that.
Your stating that social conservatives are liberals who don’t like abortion is about as accurate a generalization as saying that fiscal conservatives are libertines who don’t like paying taxes.
Neither are true across the board or even apply to a majority, and attempting to generalize in such a manner betrays a fundamental dishonesty on your part.
The problem is I never said that. Someone else on the thread did, but it wasn't me.
“Calling social conservatives liberals that dont like abortion, no difference, is absurd.”
That was the first part of the point I was making, which was saying that “libertarian = liberal that likes guns, but doesn’t want to pay taxes” is equally absurd.
Before you go on to produce anecdotal evidence, I can provide plenty of anecdotal evidence to “prove” either of these statements are true (or false). Reality is far more complex.
I could care less about your anecdotes, the facts are that social conservatives are the most right wing voters in America.
This is what Libertarianism is according to the party itself, and it is the positions of the far left, which is why libertarians are here at freerepublic always trying to move us left on many of the most profound portions of the conservative agenda.
Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian Party curtain.
Libertarian Party Platform:
Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through political boundaries.
Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.
Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.
Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.
Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.
Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.
Military Strength; minimal capabilities.
You could? This means you obviously have some measurable level of caring. Well, let me know how I can make you care less . . . or do you mean you couldn't care less.
Once again, your "logic" in your prose is about as sensible as your "logic" in concluding traditional, conservative libertarians in the Republican Party should be judged by the positions of the non-traditional, liberal ideals of the very separate Libertarian Party.
Post 93 says it all about the Liberatians.
Post 93 says it all about the Libertarians.
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