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Gehry’s Ghastly Eisenhower Memorial
National Review Online ^ | 1/10/2012 | George Weigel

Posted on 01/10/2012 12:50:46 PM PST by mojito

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To: colorado tanker

On a street corner in Rapid City SD there is a bronze statue of Ike in his military uniform that is striking in how much it resembles him.

Sadly there is one of LBJ too


61 posted on 01/10/2012 4:55:32 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: South Dakota

Why in the wide wide world of sports did Rapid City want to honor LBJ???


62 posted on 01/10/2012 5:07:30 PM PST by colorado tanker
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63 posted on 01/10/2012 5:32:49 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Unfortunately, it just felt like being in an urban park or mall entry. Even when the very nice guard/guide told us all about it and explained all of the symbolism, it was sort of a “this is it?” kind of place. Sad, but in an unintended way.


64 posted on 01/10/2012 5:41:05 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Deb

Little Frank, tell mommy what is that?

It’s poop, mommy. Poop.

Oh, little Frank, you are so bright. Mommy loves you.


65 posted on 01/10/2012 5:59:18 PM PST by healy61
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To: mojito
When I was 6 (1960), my grandmother took us to Staunton, VA because Eisenhower was going to be there. The day sticks out in my mind because I was so enthralled by the rain cover a policeman had over his hat. It is funny what grabs a kid's attention

Eisenhower was sitting in the back of shiny black convertible, hat-less, wearing a dark overcoat, smiling and waving to the crowd. He looked like he could have been anyone’s nice Grandpa dressed for church.

I would be willing to bet my grandmother and every other person her age there that day went to see General Eisenhower as well as President Eisenhower.

I am not surprised. A “postmodernist” (whatever the hell that is) will never memorialize General Eisenhower as a warrior.

66 posted on 01/10/2012 6:21:33 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: mojito

http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/menu.php?mid=5

Dwight D Eisenhower Memorial Commission
There is a “Contact Us” link on the rght side of the page.


67 posted on 01/10/2012 6:32:30 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Texas Fossil
Is there a monument to Eisenhower in Gettysburg?

I haven't seen an actual Gettysburg quarter (one of those issued in 2011) but only an online depiction of the design. There is a pedestal with a man standing holding something. I can't tell if it is supposed to be Eisenhower following through on a golf swing or a Civil War soldier with a rifle.

68 posted on 01/10/2012 7:29:28 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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http://www.eisenhowerinstitute.org/dotAsset/3243156.jpg

The Gettysburg College SCUSA delegation under the Eisenhower Monument at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. From left to right: Luke Feltz '12, Mary-Beth Kinchen '13, Katelyn Stauffer '13, and Brian Engelsma '12

http://www.eisenhowerinstitute.org

69 posted on 01/10/2012 7:52:52 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: colorado tanker
Yes, a lot of the brass thought the Airborne were going on a suicide mission which was nevertheless necessary to the operation.

There was an open dispute between the SHAEF chiefs about whether the airborne should be dropped deep into Normandy (to pull the Germans away from the landing beaches) or closer into the beaches in order to seize the causeways, quickly link up with the landing forces and provide them the exits they needed from the beachheads.

Dropping them deeper was a "safer" option for the airborne, but posed major risks to holding the beachheads and driving the landing forces inland. Dropping them closer in was estimated to produce something like 70% casualties in the first day. It was one of the toughest decisions Ike ever had to make, and since the chiefs were divided he was the one who had to make it. He chose the close-in option, and then went out to meet some of the paratroopers he felt he'd consigned to death.

As it turned out, casualties with the airborne were below 30%. Partly due to the fact that there were massive misdrops (the Germans shot the hell out of the incoming C-47s and many of the pilots decided to dump their sticks early), forcing the airborne to improvise and function more as an "infestation" force than anything really cohesive (at least from the Regiment levels and above).
70 posted on 01/10/2012 8:12:45 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: Verginius Rufus
Is there a monument to Eisenhower in Gettysburg?

His farm is there (located behind where Longstreet launched his attacks against the Union left flank on the 2nd day of the battle), maintained by the US Park Service and open to the public for tours.

That's more than enough, imho. Eisenhower was one of the truly great Americans in our history. But people shouldn't forget that it was also he who helped destroy a great deal of the historic fabric of the Gettysburg Battlefield by establishing Camp Colt right smack dab in the middle of where Pickett's Charge took place. It really isn't understood how much the terrain was changed by driving tanks through and over it, but the belief is that the change was significant and that people walking that area of the battlefield today are experiencing something fundamentally different from July 1863.

(It should also be noted that other areas of the battlefield were significantly altered over the years as well - so Ike certainly isn't alone in this. A big chunk of Devil's Den was blasted to establish a sight-seeing trolly line, and then there's the matter of the "restructuring" of Little Round Top to create the Eastern end of Warren, Sykes and the since-abandoned Chamberlain Avenues)
71 posted on 01/10/2012 8:29:42 PM PST by tanknetter
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Thanks. I haven't been to Gettysburg, but would like to get there some day.

Gen. Longstreet later became a Republican.

72 posted on 01/10/2012 8:39:40 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ConorMacNessa
if he were still alive I guess I'd be getting court-martialed

or have to clean the latrines for a month with a toothbrush

73 posted on 01/10/2012 8:55:14 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: Notwithstanding

Tear down the D. of Ed. Building and build a proper memorial to a great man, a great General, and a great President.


74 posted on 01/10/2012 8:58:21 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
I haven't been to Gettysburg, but would like to get there some day.

Its a great experience. I'd highly recommend going there in early Spring, right after they switch to the extended Summer hours schedule which keeps the battlefield open after sunset. Walking Devils Den and the Slaughter Pen after dark is really amazing.

Where they have solid documentation of the 1863 topography, the NPS is working hard to restore the parts of the battlefield that have been changed. Little Roundtop, particularly the 20th Maine's position, is a big problem. The saddle area between Little and Big Roundtop was filled in to create the sightseeing road system in the early 20th Century, resulting in a Western and Southern slope that is both shallower and shorter than the Alabamans repeatedly charged up. The Eastern side of the position is a real mess - it was regraded to create Chamberlain Avenue in the area where the "swinging door" part of the bayonet charge by the refused line took place. While Chamberlain Ave was abandoned and most of the macadam was removed decades ago, the roadbed still exists and is clearly visible.
75 posted on 01/11/2012 3:30:53 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

Thanks for the interesting details!


76 posted on 01/11/2012 9:35:37 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: mojito
I prefer this Eisenhower memorial myself.
77 posted on 01/11/2012 9:55:45 AM PST by Jonah Hex ("To Serve Manatee" is a cookbook!)
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To: colorado tanker
UGH! The Roosevelt memorial! You made a direct hit on one of my main Washington hates. What a bloated, ridiculous waste of money and time. Its like a left-wing Disneyland.

Also, someone said that the statue of Mrs. R. was the only one in D.C. of a woman. There's the one nicknamed, Three Woman In A Tub, that shows Susan B. Anthony and two others, but the one of a Eleanor is the only memorial to a woman.

Don't get me started.

78 posted on 01/11/2012 11:40:22 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
More work by this master...


79 posted on 01/11/2012 11:53:13 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Deb

Let’s not either one get started! Yep, the Roosevelt Memorial is a real stinker.


80 posted on 01/11/2012 1:06:55 PM PST by colorado tanker
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