Posted on 01/06/2012 5:38:48 PM PST by mitchell001
Thanks for the ping!!!
I agree.
Its little more than a knee-jerk reaction, but I've learned to trust those feelings.
“The nomination of Romney (if it happens) will haunt the GOP for years.”
I think it would kill the GOP. I admit to mixed feelings about that. Short term bad, long term ... probably necessary and perhaps very satisfying.
“Newt is as much a flip-flopper as Mitt is. How can he be trusted?”
Newt does tend to be a loose cannon. However, he is also smart enough to realize that if he gets the nomination, it will be largely the Conservative vote who got him there, not the RINOs or Rockefeller Republicans. I think he will hew (more or less) to Conservative principles, just to keep his base backing him, if nothing else. (This is a very cynical point of view, I realize, but I do think that’s the view Newt would take. Stick with the ones who brung you to the dance.)
“I have been a Gingrich supporter and I will not change, regardless of the media rats, the attack ads or the polls.”
I am teetering. Not quite there, but . . . almost.
No. I was agreeing with you... Newt can get thin, but the others can’t get un-stupid. Oh my gosh, I love Newt with all my heart and I am working very very hard for him. And for the records, I like exactly how he looks right now... kind of world weary and very wise.
“Republicans got the name “Stupid Party” the old-fashioned way: they earned it.”
The incompetence is feigned. The GOP is intended to be an ineffectual storefront operation. The GOP is to conservatives what Vidkun Quisling was to Norwegian national defense.
Let me know when you get here. .... I will wait for you.
“I don’t know about anybody else, but I am sure getting sick of other people telling me who I MUST vote for as if I didn’t have a brain and a mind of my own.”
Thank you. It really is infuriating. This cycle is particularly difficult and critical. The field is eccentric and the stakes are the highest in my lifetime.
What offer?
I’ve been cruising the Schwan’s website and just came back.
“Coming from Pennsylvania, a state with a rich heritage of hunting and fishing, Senator Santorum understands firsthand the importance of preserving our constitutionally protected rights found in the 2nd Amendment. Senator Santorum fights to preserve this tradition, and will work to ensure these rights are not infringed upon.”
That tips it for me. Anyone who thinks the 2nd Amendment is about killing squirrels doesn’t get it. The 2nd Amendment is about putting bullet holes through human oppressors, foreign or domestic. Nothing else.
Fail. Going for Newt. This is what Dr. Sowell was talking about.
“Also, I am nervous about Rubio. He is working us over good.
He was born, bred and groomed by the Bush machine, Jeb and the boys in the Establishment TO WHOM HE WILL BE FOREVER INDEBTED. That cabal is not conservative, once in power.”
Yup. That cabal is why we are in this place. They turned the Reagan revolution inside out, and that will never be forgotten nor forgiven.
“Let me know when you get here. .... I will wait for you.”
Its at post 191. Pleased to meet you. Where do I report?
I knew it would happen. Welcome aboard. ;>)
It’s the conservative vote split you mentioned that will likely doom him. Newt *has* to win S.C. and if Perry and Paul both stay in Willard is the prospective candidate. The arithmetic is plain.
Pubbies can never seem to figure out that winning the damned general *election* is the point! They’d rather fight endlessly over petty little factional differences and ideological “purity,” just like here on FR. I’m now resigned to another 4 (8, 12 or more) years of Obama and the end of America and freedom. I hope by some miracle I’m wrong.
I hope your wrong too but this is exactly how we got McCain!
Read this
http://www.firearmstoday.com/2012/01/03/rick-santorum-on-second-amendment-rights/
http://politicalnews.me/?id=10508&keys=GUNS-SECOND-AMENDMENT-RIGHTS
“The problem with that is SC has picked our nominee EVERY time since 1980.
You split the true conservative vote two or three ways in SC, you get a McCain or Romney. And then Obama wins. Period.”
I do understand the dilemma and as a Perry supporter, for a while Tuesday night I thought he was dropping out, and I was totally at peace with that, for this very reason. However, looking from the perspective of Newt, Perry & Santorum, all 3 really have a justification to stay in longer. Newt & Santorum for sure. And Perry too I think just because:
a. Santorum hasn’t been totally vetted yet and who knows what his numbers will look like once he is.
and
b. Newt’s strategy to “go nuclear” on Romney-while I like it a lot, may end up backfiring on him and causing him to drop further.
So for those two reasons and the fact that Perry’s from the south and S.C. is a better fit for him to go for a win, I think he’s totally justified in staying in.
To your point about S.C. picking our nominee-the thing about these kinds of statistics is that this, I think is a unique election cycle. Our country has never been in deeper peril than it is today, and a majority in the GOP just vehemently oppose the idea of settling on a RINO flip-flopper like Romney when what we need right now is the exact opposite of that.
One example of what I mean is this election cycle the term “anti-Romney” is quite popular. If you Google it, you get 253 million page results. 4 years ago, even though much of the base despised McCain, I don’t remember this same clamoring from so many to consolidate behind a common candidate to stop him.
You have to remember also that the GOP primary rules are different now. It used to be that most of these states were “winner take all”, which is a big reason why McCain was able to pretty much lock it up on Super Tuesday 4 years ago. This year, most states’ delegates are apportioned by percentage of the vote, allowing for a long and drawn out fight. I believe that with the exception of Florida, the “winner take all” states don’t start voting till April.
So with these changes and the mood of the electorate this cycle toward an obviously establishment-back insider like Romney, I think there’s a good chance that S.C. may not be the deciding state.
I am inclined to agree.
I’m still backing Perry. If that doesn’t work, I’m just not supporting anyone. I will vote for the nominee eventually, whoever it is. But without any enthusiasm.
bttt
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