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Swift-Boat Vet Slams Gingrich
National Review ^ | January 3, 2012 | Brian Bolduc

Posted on 01/03/2012 10:42:50 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: blueyon

He didn’t have to perpetuate the media lie. You are basically saying Gingrich will regurgitate anything the media says. I don’t want a president like that.


61 posted on 01/03/2012 1:59:23 PM PST by nickcarraway (Swiftboat Vets Told the Truth)
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To: Interesting Times
A final note: if NR gets any deeper in the tank for Romney, they’ll have to rename the magazine.

I could see the girlie boys at NR renaming it RR for Romney Review and then claiming it was in homage to Ronald Reagan.

I'm ready to use the paper version as a fireplace starter.

Gingrich is certainly not on his game of late. I think he's stunned that it's not a college debating society after all.

Regards,

TS

62 posted on 01/03/2012 2:04:56 PM PST by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: nickcarraway

“Gingrich = Rombot”

What does your comment even mean?

I just don’t get it.


63 posted on 01/03/2012 2:24:09 PM PST by ngat
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To: VinL

But instead; snap, instantaneously, Newt draws the distinction and turns it on the media - “no, I was Romney boated.”The Newt distinction - “swift boating” is legitimately telling the truth, whereas “Romney-boating” is a smear campaign.Newt is simply brilliant on his feet— no one else comes close.

If your interpretation is correct, O’Neill should not have taken offense at all, and comes across as taking an unnecessary shot at Gingrich.


64 posted on 01/03/2012 2:31:24 PM PST by ngat
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To: blueyon

...”The definition is (from wikipedia) “”the term “swiftboating” or “Swift Boating” is now commonly used to refer to what the New York Times describes as “the nastiest of campaign smears””...

If that is what wiki says, it sure needs to be challenged. The left does not GET to define and create words, especially to whitewash Kerry and smear the swiftboat veterans as smear-mongers


65 posted on 01/03/2012 2:36:38 PM PST by ngat
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To: ngat

Ng, I can see this fellow taken offense- it’s understandable. But, it’s also obvious from his comment that Newt wouldn’t be his candidate even had Newt not made the statement-—


66 posted on 01/03/2012 3:15:49 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: nickcarraway
I gotta say I respectfully disagree that he “slammed these veterans.”

It was the media who used the term “Swift-boated.” Gingrich specifically said NO, he was not Swift-boated - he was Romney-boated. He specifically made a distinction FROM Swift Boat Veterans, and the Swift Boat campaign against Kerry. He specifically blamed the attacks on him where they belong, on Romney. I think he was differentiating, not equating.

67 posted on 01/03/2012 4:26:09 PM PST by BagCamAddict (OMG = Obama Must Go. Let's stay focused on the goal.)
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To: nickcarraway

Holy crap, Nick, I admire your fire and I think I see eye to eye on most everything with you post.

And I’m not much of a Gingrich supporter, unless of course by some miracle he ends up as the candidate opposing the Obamanation.

But I think you’ve read this thing wrong. Gingrich didn’t invoke the Swiftboat vets or the Swiftboat terminology. A REPORTER did...a reporter who clearly thought that “Swiftboat” is a negative term and wanted to see if Gingrich would agree with him.

Gingrinch instead turned the term back on the scumbag reporter, saying that no, he wasn’t swiftboated, he was Romney-boated....which I took to mean that he respected the Swiftboaters and what they had done, as opposed to his feelings about what Romney had done.

Just my take on the exchange....


68 posted on 01/03/2012 4:44:13 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Red Steel
Gingrich is just one dumb sob sometimes. OK, the media first uses the word "swiftboating", Newt ought to say: "Oh, by swiftboating, you mean telling the truth about a phony politician. Right?"

Then go on to respond to Romney's attacks. And it's bad strategy to be responding to Romney, he ought to be on the attack. Let Romney respond to him.

Romney's a target rich environment.

If I could photoshop, I'd take a pic of Black Bart holding a gun to his head, replace it with Gingrich's head with the caption: "Don't move or I blow this Speaker's head off." That appears to be the Gingrich campaign.

69 posted on 01/03/2012 6:26:03 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; org.whodat; Impy
RE:"what ??? i thought paul crewe greengrinch was the experienced, master politician, who knows all the tricks, and will quickly make mincemeat out of bambam with his speaking skills...???"

I saw one of the commercials on cable. It accuses Newt of getting paid >1.6 M $ by Fannie and Freddie and doing a climate change commercial with Pelosi, and being for amnesty. Newt never says what exactly is in these ads that are lies. Kerry never said what in the Swift Boat ads were lies either. I guess that's why Newt says he was 'boated' .

Expect Newt to launch more attacks on Romney, should be fun to watch.

70 posted on 01/03/2012 6:32:28 PM PST by sickoflibs (You MUST support the lesser of two RINOs or we all die!)
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To: nickcarraway
“To me, it reflects Gingrich’s very cynical hypocrisy, which he shares with Kerry,” O’Neill tells National Review Online. That hypocrisy “is the reason why he can appear with [Nancy] Pelosi in climate-change ads and why he can take money from Freddie Mac: If you’re part of the political class, [you believe] you’re free from any public scrutiny of what you’ve done.”

Tell it brother.

71 posted on 01/03/2012 6:44:38 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Gilbo_3
wait, what ??? i thought paul crewe greengrinch was the experienced, master politician, who knows all the tricks, and will quickly make mincemeat out of bambam with his speaking skills...???

You didn't get that from me. ;-)

72 posted on 01/04/2012 3:19:47 AM PST by rhombus
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To: nickcarraway

To me, the “swiftboating” reference means bringing forth the historical truth in a candidate’s past that reflects badly upon that candidate. For Gingrich to complain about “Romney-boating”is to deny the truth and to set himself up as a liberal.


73 posted on 01/04/2012 6:41:04 AM PST by Inwoodian
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