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The Haditha Marines-The Squad Leader-A Final Chapter (SSgt Wuterich-Master Thread)
1-2-2012
Posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:48 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
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posted on
01/05/2012 10:50:46 AM PST
by
jazusamo
(If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
To: Lancey Howard; smoothsailing
Is the “My Rifle” creed required reading for Marines?
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posted on
01/05/2012 12:01:07 PM PST
by
xzins
(Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
To: jazusamo; smoothsailing; RedRover; Lancey Howard; Girlene
@puckettfaraj puckettfaraj Ladies and Gentlemen, Jan 4, 2012 at the last general court-martial, the truth about Haditha will be revealed. http://fb.me/1imTEcKfG 15 Dec via Facebook
The above from 15 Dec and from the twitter acct of the Faraj Puckett (counsel?) is intriguing.
I'm betting one prong of his attack will be to go after the "Status of Forces" angle made evident by Murtha's old aide, John Hugya. Hugya's words can easily demonstrate that a much higher level was messing in Wuterich's case.
Wuterich needs to be exhonerated, promoted, and given a medal and back pay.
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posted on
01/05/2012 12:14:52 PM PST
by
xzins
(Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
To: xzins
Is the My Rifle creed required reading for Marines?I don't recall having to memorize it (like "General Orders", for example) but we were definitely made very familiar with it in boot camp.
To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; P-Marlowe; Girlene; smoothsailing; RedRover
I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...
As I understand the real charge against Staff Sergeant Wuterich, he, in the mind of liberals, sent his troops on a killing spree by giving the "shoot first, ask questions later" instructions.
If every Marine is indoctrinated with the above creed "I must shoot him before he shoots me.", and since the ROEs at the time did NOT require positive ID but only a feeling of endangerment, then I see no way he can be convicted on any of the true charges.
There's always the possibility they're trying to salvage face by secretly targeting the "did not clean under his fingernails prior to dress mess" law. Just so they can say, "convicted on one charge....in the killing of 24 innocent civilians".
And you know they'll do it. It's not what's true in their mind; it's what they can spin that matters.
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posted on
01/05/2012 12:30:18 PM PST
by
xzins
(Pray for Our Troops Remaining in Afghanistan, now that Iran Can Focus on Injuring Only Them)
To: Lancey Howard
To: xzins; jazusamo; lilycicero; smoothsailing; RedRover; bigheadfred; 4woodenboats; Lancey Howard
47
posted on
01/05/2012 1:01:30 PM PST
by
Girlene
To: Girlene
Hey Girlene! Long Time No Lookie!!! :)
To: Girlene
Hiya, Girl.
Happy you’ll be here for the final round and Frank’s exoneration, that was a good piece by Malkin.
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posted on
01/05/2012 1:16:35 PM PST
by
jazusamo
(If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
To: jazusamo; smoothsailing
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posted on
01/05/2012 1:33:58 PM PST
by
Girlene
To: Girlene; jazusamo
To: smoothsailing; jazusamo; Girlene
Glad to hear from you, girl. Hopefully the nightmare(s) are for to be over.
To: smoothsailing
Thanks for the link - cool site.
To: Lancey Howard
They Sucked, M-14 mo better.
To: Lancey Howard; smoothsailing; jazusamo; Girlene; lilycicero
Hey, Lancey (and everybody)! Great to see you again! You might be interested in Bob Weimann's latest analysis
here. Just posted it now!
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posted on
01/05/2012 5:32:14 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: RedRover; Lancey Howard; smoothsailing; Girlene; lilycicero
Great piece, Red and just finished reading it, he stated it perfectly!
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posted on
01/05/2012 5:36:20 PM PST
by
jazusamo
(If you don't like growing older, don't worry. You may not be growing older much longer: T. Sowell)
To: smoothsailing; jazusamo; Girlene; lilycicero; Semper Fi Mom
Hope to have a story on Day One in an hour or so. I’m standing by.
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posted on
01/05/2012 5:39:04 PM PST
by
RedRover
(DefendOurMarines.com)
To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; lilycicero; Semper Fi Mom
Hope to have a story on Day One in an hour or so. Im standing by.OK! I'm Ready!
To: jazusamo; RedRover; Lancey Howard; Girlene; lilycicero
To: smoothsailing
Thanks smooth. I’ve been off this site until a few minutes ago. Looks like this is going to be a real nail biter. I did notice as of this morning, four charges where already dropped.
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posted on
01/05/2012 6:03:17 PM PST
by
Marine_Uncle
(Honor must be earned.)
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