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Formerly Great Cities All Over America Are Turning Into Open, Festering Sores
The American Dream ^ | 1-1-2012

Posted on 01/01/2012 9:45:00 PM PST by blam

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To: Prokopton

“The Report on Manufactures is the third report, and magnum opus, of American Founding Father and 1st U.S. Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton. It was presented to Congress on December 5, 1791 and recommended economic policies to stimulate the new republic’s economy and ensure the independence won with the conclusion of the Revolutionary War in 1783.

Hamilton’s “Report on Manufactures” laid forth economic principles rooted in both the Mercantilist System of Elizabeth I’s England and the practices of Jean-Baptiste Colbert of France. The principal ideas of the “Report” would later be incorporated into the “American System” program by Senator Henry Clay of Kentucky and his Whig Party. Abraham Lincoln, who called himself a “Henry Clay tariff Whig” during his early years, would later make the principles outlined in the “Report” and furthered by Clay’s “American System” program cornerstones, together with opposition to the institution and expansion of slavery, of the fledgling Republican Party.

Hamilton’s ideas formed the basis for the American School of economics.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Report_on_Manufactures


121 posted on 01/02/2012 10:01:32 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: blam

Pictures of Hiroshima 64 years after being leveled by atamic bomb...

http://tnixon16.com/2009/10/09/detroit-vs-hiroshima-64-years-later/


122 posted on 01/02/2012 10:04:31 AM PST by Former MSM Viewer
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To: wardaddy
Our nature leads us to want to identify a cause for the nation's deep problems. It's encouraging to believe there's a single major thing we can change and we're back on the road again. There is no single cause for what has happened to our country over the past 40 or so years.

We arrived here, in no particular order, as a result of; our own affluence, declining religious observance, LBJ and the Great Society, lowered academic standards, Hart-Celler, Marcuse, a generally wretched class of political leadership, critical theory, horrible national economic policies. And, of course, dozens more that you can add.

Mark Steyn, in After America, I think correctly describes America's trajectory. He points out that our ride will not be like France's gradual, gentle decline. Rather, we'll be taking the express lane. And it sure does feel that way.

These places like Detroit, Camden, Newark, Birmingham etc. are a horror. Ignoring their demographics is truly intellectually dishonest. Spending more and more of the nation's resources in an attempt to make them bright and shiny again is truly stupid.
123 posted on 01/02/2012 10:11:08 AM PST by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: Soul of the South

truth! You said it 100x better than I could. Tariffs are a no brainer not that they solve everything. Nuke the EPA too for starters and close our borders to illegal aliens


124 posted on 01/02/2012 10:14:07 AM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Soul of the South
Very well written.

Your points are intelligent and well thought out. I agree with them.

It is the current legal and regulatory environment that makes it difficult for all U.S. businesses to succeed. The success of foreign companies in the U.S. auto industry was due primarily to the superior quality of their products.

125 posted on 01/02/2012 10:14:45 AM PST by detective
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To: hosepipe

Even now most REFUSE TO ADMIT Zerodamus is doing this all ON PURPOSE..
Even Presidential candidates refuse to state the situation correctly..

Newt comes very close sometimes though..
BUT he refuses to come right out say it..


Exactly so - Lenin said that the bourgeoisie (i.e. the middle class) would be crushed between the millstones of taxation and inflation. I think we can add to that a third millstone of regulation so Omumba is actually going Vladimir one better.

Things don’t happen by accident.


126 posted on 01/02/2012 10:18:27 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: BobL
When we dismantle our labor unions, then we might have some standing to complain about China. But, for now, if China doesn’t provide our goods, no one will - simply because the unions will NOT permit us to make them here, at a reasonable price.

That is BS. Unions do not control the right-to-work states. There will not be anyone left to buy goods and pay taxes if the economy is hollowed out by sending away the jobs. Free Traitorism, the original Liberalism, has no basis in reality. Tariffs are the are the only rational solution.

127 posted on 01/02/2012 10:28:09 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: wardaddy
Plenty of white lib cities that like it or not survive well enough

But these cities will not remain white, thanks to liberalism.

128 posted on 01/02/2012 10:29:27 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: cynwoody
Thanks for the link. Interesting history.

It was built in 1893, same year as my house, which is still in fabulous shape. (I would not trade it for a newly constructed McMansion, most of which are crappily built even if they're considered "high end" and come with a high end price tag.)

129 posted on 01/02/2012 10:35:04 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: Soul of the South

“I agree the Federal Reserve in the 1930’s did shrink the money supply which compounded the effects of the Depression and the policies of Roosevelt may have prolonged the crisis. “

The Fed didn’t “shrink the money supply” in 1930s. The money supply collapse of 30% over the 3 years 1930-33 was due to the domino effect of thousands of bank failures and widespread bad debt causing the collapse of asset prices. The credit portion of the money supply contracted severely as old loans failed and new loans weren’t created. And the lack of FDIC meant that depositors’ savings vanished into smoke when banks failed. It was more of an intrinsic effect than something that anyone “did”.

The Fed’s culpability was its failure to act to stop the snowball once it got underway, although it’s not clear that they understood what they needed to do. You can find an extended discussion of this in Friedman and Schwartz’s ‘The Great Contraction’. It appears to me that Bernanke’s actions have been based on Friedman and Schwartz’s criticisms of the 30s Fed. He’s certainly fighting a deflation, something the 30s Fed failed to do.


130 posted on 01/02/2012 10:47:34 AM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

[ Things don’t happen by accident. ]

Sometimes they do.. but their rare..

The Cloward-Piven-ing of America is well documented.
In your face.. displayed on prime time by Glen Beck..
And almost totally ignored by all media.. even FOX since Beck has skidaddled..

NO presidential candidate will touch it..
except for a few offhand comments about Alinsky by Newt..
Could be America does not even want to face “the truth”..

NO I’LL GO FARTHER.. America does not want to face the truth..
like if they go to sleep(politically) when they wake up after the election all will be well..

America seems to have become a cartoon of itself..


131 posted on 01/02/2012 11:04:18 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: wardaddy

I miss puroresu too - he had a way with expressing truth so clearly. What happened to him?


132 posted on 01/02/2012 11:14:34 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: listenhillary
Why can’t my state look out for it’s own interests and enact a 50% tariff on every imported item from other states? My state is being destroyed by cheap imports from other states in the US.

Suprised that you know so little about the US Constitution:

The U.S. Constitution of 1789 gave the federal government authority to tax, stating that Congress has the power to "... lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States." Tariffs between states is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution and all domestically made products can be imported or shipped to another state tax free.

The US Constitution Article I, Section 9, Clause 5 provides a further limitation:

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

133 posted on 01/02/2012 11:16:06 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nathanbedford; wardaddy; blam
It appears that the reality is so taboo that instead you will be ignored to death.

The only way to go, IMO, and that's slow. The country couldn't stand the shock if all this info about racial violence and decay were in your face 24/7 - TV, newspapers magazines, blogs etc.

Here's an article just up today: Blight of the Living Dead, about an area of Atlanta called The Bluff.

Here's a line from the article: Atlanta councilman Ivory Lee Young Jr. said it isn’t the gun-wielding gangbangers who are guilty of “terrorism”—it’s the people they frightened into the suburbs.

I have no idea where it's going, except I don't expect a happy ending.
134 posted on 01/02/2012 11:29:30 AM PST by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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To: WilliamIII

[ I wish it were as simple as Democrats - bad, Republicans - good. ]

Its the UNIONS.. they have become Vampires..
Vampires, the Borg, The Wraith, a Tape Worm or Parasites by any metaphorical reference you can name..

Crabs, Lice, Fleas, Blood parasites, Skin parasites, Intestinal parasites, Viruses,
Unions are economic parasites..

The Federal Government has become and “IS” a parasite to the States..
The federal government is “PEOPLE”... people from both parties..

In some places the State government may be a parasite to local government..
State government is also “PEOPLE”..

Government workers and Unions have become sympathetic to each other..
They FEED on a Host(other people)...........

Would make a seriously GOOD MOVIE...


135 posted on 01/02/2012 11:30:39 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

“That is BS. Unions do not control the right-to-work states. There will not be anyone left to buy goods and pay taxes if the economy is hollowed out by sending away the jobs. Free Traitorism, the original Liberalism, has no basis in reality. Tariffs are the are the only rational solution. “

LOL. No union apologist is going to fool my butt, I’ve seen the DEVASTATION caused when plants unionize enough with my own two eyes (i.e., about 3 until they close after ‘winning’ the vote).

If we really WANT jobs here, then we have to adapt our political structure to REALITY, not to some fantasy that left-wing money-laundering operations (i.e., today’s unions) have ANY INTEREST AT ALL in supporting this country. They’re no different than the OWS crowd.


136 posted on 01/02/2012 12:10:25 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: MrB

Who is to blame? Look to the people who run the cities? Look to the Union Contracts? Look to the spending habits? Look to the corruption? What political party is most responsible?
Democrats! If people voted them out—rather than re-elect them things will change.


137 posted on 01/02/2012 12:49:58 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: central_va; listenhillary

Under the Articles of Confederation there were plenty of trade disputes between the states.

The Philadelphia Convention that created the Constitution was preceded by two other conferences that sought to deal with commercial issues, the Mount Vernon Conference of 1785 and the Annapolis Convention of 1786. One impetus for replacing the Articles of Confederation with the Constitution was the issue of trade between the states.

So while Mr hillary did bring up an interesting issue, Mr _va is correct that the Constitution prevents tariffs between the states. It certainly doesn’t prohibit tariffs on foreign trade since that was the principle means of funding the national government for the first 125 years of the nation’s existence, after which the free trade wing got its wish of reducing tariffs and instead the tax burden was shifted onto the American citizenry whether or not they choose to purchase foreign goods.


138 posted on 01/02/2012 1:20:02 PM PST by Pelham (Islam. The original Evil Empire)
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To: Kickass Conservative

hahahehe! bred...


139 posted on 01/02/2012 1:52:39 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: detective
The Great depression was a number of factors. The debt bubble was the main cause of the economic decline. Had government stayed out of it, then it would have come back in a few years. Hoover raised the high end of taxes from the 20%+ range to the low 60% range. That will work wonders to dampen any economy for years to come. The tariff in the early 30’s helped drive down exports since we exported a lot of what we made. Then we put the nail in the coffin by electing FDR. He raised taxes even further after running on a platform that ridiculed Hoover for doing the same thing. Other restrictive laws, ordering the confiscation of peoples gold (reimbursing them I believe at a slightly higher rate, or maybe that was silver only) and then revaluing the metal, i.e. monetary inflation(devaluing the currency).
140 posted on 01/02/2012 2:00:56 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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