Posted on 12/25/2011 4:41:06 PM PST by smoothsailing
Be nice to get that problem out of the way now.
I think this happening during Christmas is ideal for the Newt and Perry camps.
Bingo!
BTW, they set some sort of “threshold” of 15,000 or so names which meant they wouldn’t bother checking the validity of the names.
I think they are trying to say that a candidate should provide the larger number in order to make sure they get the specified legitimate number of signatures. JMO.
The following from their guidelines published on the Republican Party of Virginia website:
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Petition Requirements
§ 24.2-545
Circulate on or after July 1, 2011;
Must be on the form prescribed by the State Board of
Elections (copy enclosed). It is suggested that the candidate or group complete the top portion of the petition form and then print or photocopy as many copies of the form as needed. The form may not be altered in any way.
Must be signed by not less than 10,000 qualified voters in
Virginia, including at least 400 qualified voters from each of Virginia’s eleven congressional districts, who attest that they intend to participate in the primary of the same political party as the candidate named on the petition.
Because many people who are not registered to vote will sign
a petition, it is recommended that 15,000 - 20,000 signatures be obtained with at least 700 signatures from each congressional district.
end snip
The above from the Duties, Deadlines, etc:
http://rpv.org/sites/default/files/Deadlines%20Duties%20and%20Ballot%20Access%20Requirements%20for%20the%20Presidential%20Primary%20Election%203_6_12%20Rev%205.pdf
My post is from the information the state sends to candidates. it is from here: http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/Cidate_Information/Cidate_Bulletins_Forms.html , the Virginia State Board of Elections.
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Candidate Information Bulletins
March 6, 2012 Presidential Primary Election
Presidential Primary “
It is what the Board tells the candidates, not the law.
Note that without addresses it is impossible to determine whether the signatories are ‘qualified voters’ as the law requires.
LOL!
Under VA law each party applies its own rules to put candidates on its respective primary ballot. The Republican Party of Virgina could, if it wanted, pass a rule to allow you to get on the VA primary ballot if you can burp the letters from ‘A’ to ‘Z’ after drinking a gallon of Coke.
The VA law only says that if somebody manages gets at least 10,000/400 verified sigs, that person *must also* be included on the primary ballot.
The VA GOP published a letter saying that if anybody submits 15000 sigs (600 from each district) that the VA GOP will ‘deem’ that the state certification requirement is already met. No further checking required. While this may seem arbitrary it is perfectly within their rights under the law as written.
What a mess.
Obambi will get a second term because of stuff like this, and I think the GOP wants him to.
If in the past signatures were not check and the GOP did not instruct that the procedure this time would change before Newt’s committee collected them then he a case. Virginia GOP responsibility was to inform all candidates of the new rule so the new procedure could be followed. This stinks to hell and smells like a conspiracy..
This is the part that stood out for me.
“Because many people who are not registered to vote will sign
a petition, it is recommended that 15,000 - 20,000 signatures
be obtained with at least 700 signatures from each
congressional district. “
The State Board of Elections told them that for crying out loud.
Remember, it's up to the GOP Central committee to figure out that part. I'd say the Senate primary could be highly influenced by how they deal with this ~ and soon.
I do know that if Newt and Perry aren't on the Presidential list the Establishment candidate for the Senate is going to come up real short for votes.
I certainly ain’t no lawyer-er and I ain’t never played one
on TV and I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night,
but...
Are you saying that Perry and Gingrich are disqualified from the primary ballot
by Virginia GOP Party rules, not by Virginia state law?
Thanks!
The question is do you want Newt and Perry on the list or do you want to PO Virginia hard core Republican voters.
I think you'll end up wanting them on the list by tomorrow morning some time.
The State Board of Elections told them that for crying out loud.
That’s why I think they’ll not have a leg to stand on if they challenge. The RPV may have been lax in the past but the law/rules are plainly written for the candidates to see.
There are 49 delegates out of 1144 or so needed to nominate thus I don’t see this as big blow to any of the campaigns. The winner most likely will have several hunderd more delegates than the nearest competitor. JMO.
The Lt. Governor is chairman of Virginians for Romney. He won't lift a finger.
Are you saying that Perry and Gingrich are disqualified from the primary ballot
by Virginia GOP Party rules, not by Virginia state law?
Not sure what you mean.
I’m quoting the informational packet the STATE Board of Elections sends the candidates:
http://www.sbe.virginia.gov/cms/Cidate_Information/Cidate_Bulletins_Forms.html
It was the VA GOP that announced the disqualification of Newt and Perry. It was announced at the Republican Party of Virginia home page rpv.org and their Twitter feed. The state didn't announce anything (as far as I know).
The VA GOP did the checking and rejecting of the sigs. Whether they used some kind of state computer system or database to do that is unclear.
I think they'll get this figured out doggone quick, don't you?
It's just the party and they are using the Osborne suit as an excuse.
Frankly, this is so scandalous I think all the Mitbots in the State Legislature should also be forced to resign.
In Virginia we don't need to put up with Chicago election rules.
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