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Navy Biofuel Deal is 'Cost Prohibitive,' 'Another Solyndra,’ Critics Say
CNSNews ^ | December 23, 2011 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 12/23/2011 10:22:40 AM PST by jazusamo

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1 posted on 12/23/2011 10:22:44 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
Bold lettering mine.

It seems there's a never ending indication of corruption connected to Obama and the stimulus money he seems to use for paying off his supporters.

2 posted on 12/23/2011 10:26:17 AM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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Isn’t this the ethanol subsidy that Newt was paid to promote and he still supports it?


3 posted on 12/23/2011 10:28:56 AM PST by heiss (heartless and inhumane (radical rightwinger))
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To: jazusamo

Nothing short of tar and feathers for the whole of the Washington establishment will stop this madness.


4 posted on 12/23/2011 10:29:07 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: jazusamo

The way things are going in the United States, we can no doubt look forward to the day when America’s naval fighter jets are piloted by lesbians and powered by whale sh*t.


5 posted on 12/23/2011 10:35:13 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Lead.


6 posted on 12/23/2011 10:45:25 AM PST by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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The high cost is indicative of the fact that it takes more energy to produce it than it generates. The blended price really is a lie to cover up the true cost.


7 posted on 12/23/2011 10:51:42 AM PST by Oldexpat
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The high cost is indicative of the fact that it takes more energy to produce it than it generates. The blended price really is a lie to cover up the true cost.


8 posted on 12/23/2011 10:51:56 AM PST by Oldexpat
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” Lead. “

Rope and trees have the advantage of being re-usable - not to mention, ‘eco-friendly’......


9 posted on 12/23/2011 10:56:01 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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One need go no further then to see what Investors....errr Obambi bundlers are profiting from this Bio Fuel. How is this any different than insider trading?
10 posted on 12/23/2011 11:08:48 AM PST by DAC21
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In just the last few months the U.S. has become a net exporter of refined fuels, according to Energy Department statistics. Exports have been running ahead of imports by 467,000 barrels a day, with much of the fuel going to Latin America and South America.


11 posted on 12/23/2011 11:15:46 AM PST by ILS21R (Never give up.)
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To: jazusamo

Ah ,friend of Obama needing some cash


12 posted on 12/23/2011 11:26:57 AM PST by molson209
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To: ILS21R

This kind of thing is not only nuts but criminal when we have oil reserves that the RATS and enviro whack jobs won’t let us go after. Then there’s the Keystone pipeline that Obama and thugs are doing what they can to stop.


13 posted on 12/23/2011 11:27:51 AM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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Anyone hear the results of the Navy test of algae created bio-fuel for ships?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2808799/posts


14 posted on 12/23/2011 11:36:40 AM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN...............a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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I am wondering what happens to the volatility when you blend the fuels together.

When the Air Force was using JP-4, you had to report receiving fuel from Air Force tankers when you went back to the ship. Evidently mixing of JP-4 and JP-5 (the Navy jet fuel) produced a much lower flashpoint. You weren't allowed to bring that airplane into the hangar bay with mixed fuel.

15 posted on 12/23/2011 12:40:36 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Excellent point. I didn’t know that about the mixing of fuels.


16 posted on 12/23/2011 12:45:15 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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I can't remember the exact numbers, but the Navy used its fuel because it had a higher flashpoint than the Air Force fuel. That makes sense, just like the Navy using a special coating on their bomb bodies for a higher cook off temperature.

When you mix the two fuels I think you got a flash point lower than either of the two fuels by themselves. That was interesting and scary at the same time.

17 posted on 12/23/2011 1:02:45 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Fuel so good, only one afterburner can kicked in. The other one wouldn't ignite.

18 posted on 12/23/2011 1:36:42 PM PST by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: USNBandit

Yes, it makes perfect sense the Navy would use a higher flashpoint fuel with the planes being stored below the flight deck.

Thanks for the info.


19 posted on 12/23/2011 1:38:13 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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Good eye, it sure looks that way.


20 posted on 12/23/2011 1:39:49 PM PST by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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