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Blame Bush if you don't like the GOP 2012 field
Washington Examiner ^ | 12/21/11 | Philip Klein

Posted on 12/22/2011 3:18:16 AM PST by markomalley

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To: Democrat_media

And bush did nothing but pile on for 8 years are horrible policies. GWB was a disaster for the GOP.


21 posted on 12/22/2011 4:35:37 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: markomalley
Where the blame belongs....

America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution By Angelo M. Codevilla from the July 2010 - August 2010 issue

22 posted on 12/22/2011 4:40:26 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: markomalley; Jim Robinson

This article borders on insanity.

GWB was the most conservative candidate that we could possibly have gotten elected in 2000. At that, he just squeaked in.

Under Bush, we added seats in Congress in 2002 and 2004, and took over the Senate for the first time in decades.

Although he backed some moderate candidates over the years, he backed far more conservative ones.

NCLB and the Medicare Part D were campaign promises he kept. Gingrich supported both of them, and still does. NCLB improved our kids education...test scores prove that, and Medicare Part D has come in way below projected costs.

He fought the EPA tooth and toenail (all the way to the Supreme Court) over CO2, while opening millions of acres of federal land to mining and oil exploration.

He cut everyone’s income taxes, and never allowed them to be raised.

He won the war in Iraq, broke Al-Qaeda, and relegated Osama to a hell hole in Pakistan.

He held the line on stem cell research, cloning, and abortion for both terms.

These are just a few of GWB’s accomplishments....

The truth is that anti-illegal “conservatives” (mostly paultards) threw him and the Republicans under the bus over comprehensive immigration reform and handed our nation to Pelosi, Reid, and Obama. They thought it was worth it, I didn’t and pointed it out here repeatedly.

Now, we are saddled with a bunch of candidates that don’t hold a candle to GWB in honesty, integrity, or conservative principles. Our government is running deficits three times larger than anything GWB ever had, our foreign policy is in shambles, our economy is in shambles.

George W. Bush is not responsible for the stupidity of the entire nation, especially three years after he left office.

Ya’ll can flame me all you want to, but fortunately, I’ve got to get ready for work. I don’t really care, recent months have shown how infested with Paultards (idiots) FR truly is.

Although I told Jim I wouldn’t bother FR again, I just can’t stand to see an honest, Christian, conservative man like GWB unfairly blamed for the godawful mess we are in now.

Sorry Jim...


23 posted on 12/22/2011 4:42:01 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: markomalley
 

W's administration wasn't a complete failure (good riddance Old Shoe), but its catastrophic economic legacy is the demoralized result of The Party (tm) being infested with interior decorating rainbow RINO-crats who game the system for their own progressive/occult activist causes --instead of conserving the values this Republic was founded upon.   


"Oops"
 

24 posted on 12/22/2011 4:44:26 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: markomalley

Why not? omama, the msm, and the Democrat Party [same inity, dirrerent titles] blame him for everything else. What is one more thing?


25 posted on 12/22/2011 4:44:50 AM PST by sport
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To: PieterCasparzen

“So should conservatives now accept a centrist or establishment candidate ?”

The answer from the”Republican inside-the-beltway Establishment” is Both. In other words, Mitt.


26 posted on 12/22/2011 4:59:38 AM PST by radioone ("2012 can't come soon enough")
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To: ClearCase_guy
I don't praise Bush, but I also don't see the benefit of Bush bashing either.

This article isn't bashing Bush. Its an honest appraisal of what went horribly wrong from 2001 through 2006 when the Republicans were in control and could have made a difference. The issue that many conservatives still don't want to face is that Bush did not want to cut spending. It wasn't the media, it wasn't the Democrats, it was Bush. He is a Rockefeller Republican just like his father. They want increased spending, just on different things than the Dems. That is why government grew under Bush and the Republican Congress.

Santorum's answer about not having back up is weak and pathetic. Santorum really wasn't a small government conservative either. He was good on social issues but never was a leader when it came to shrinking government and he has a huge protectionist streak in him. He played to his Pennsylvania constituency -- union and older people.

The result of Bush and the Republican leadership at the time was a disaster. And, while I don't support Newt Gingrich, really points out how effective Newt was as a small government conservative. When was the last time we had a budget that was heading toward balance? When Newt was effectively in charge of Congress. Once he got booted out, the GOP turned into pigs at the trough.

27 posted on 12/22/2011 5:01:35 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Santorum really wasn't a small government conservative either.

Well Santorum's got his warts and occasionally sticks his foot in his mouth, but two things happened to him that pretty much ruined him:

1) Bush and Rove broke his arm to get his endorsement of Specter in 2004. Rural Pennsylvania Conservatives stayed home in droves because of it and have never forgiven him (even though Toomey has proven to be only marginally better).

2) Rahm Emmanuel and the other DNC strategists specifically targeted his seat for the 2006 Rat takeover of Congress and to pave the way for Hillary in 2008. The tactics and strategy they used was pure Alinksy, and both Santorum and the GOP was wholly unprepared for it.

28 posted on 12/22/2011 5:18:38 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

I don’t fault him for Specter and it wasn’t pressure from Bush that got him to endorse Specter. Specter endorsed and campaigned for Santorm so Rick returned the favor. I don’t mind that. Its his record of Big Government Conservatism that I don’t like. By the way, I liked and voted for him in PA. I just don’t think he is the best candidate for president.


29 posted on 12/22/2011 5:22:13 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The media has been running this country...”

The national media crawled into my state to trash every conservative for months and praise every rat.

After the 2010 election, every rat and was thrown out of every state office. Every rat congressman, except one, was tossed out. There’s not one rat in any state office. Both state houses are conservative. Two RINOs were beat in the primary and replaced with Tea Party candidates.

The media does not run this part of the country.


30 posted on 12/22/2011 5:22:58 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: markomalley

I love George W. Bush but I wish he had replaced Dick Cheney (who I also love) with a conservative for his race against Kerry. Had that happened we would be been grooming the next President. Instead we got zerobama.


31 posted on 12/22/2011 5:36:31 AM PST by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: A.Hun

So A.Hun just tell me EXACTALLY WHAT both Bushes(41/43) did did to advance the cause of BOTH The Republican Party AND/OR Conservatism? Cite Examples.


32 posted on 12/22/2011 5:57:50 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: don-o
The media is nothing but a reflection of its audience.

The MSM is a monopoly and they are biased to the core. Because they are a monopoly they ARE NOT a reflection of their audience, they don't have to be. Most of the sheeple are not leftist trained in the Red Ivy League.

33 posted on 12/22/2011 6:03:50 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley
Really?

You know what, no. This field is its own worst enemy.

34 posted on 12/22/2011 6:44:25 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
George W Bush destroyed the GOP and is almost solely responsible for Obama. Is still look at him indisgust.

Me too, Glock, one of the worst things that happened was the defeat of Clayton Williams for governor in 1990; it led four years later to the rise of GWB, who otherwise would have had no empty seat to pursue. An empty suit, yes, but no empty seat would have been available had there been a successful Governor Williams seeking reelection. Of course, Claytie may have self-destructed too, considering his problem with foot-in-mouth- disease.

35 posted on 12/22/2011 7:47:20 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: central_va

Another problem we have is that sheeple don’t know they are sheeple. They are too confused and too uninformed to separate chaff from wheat.


36 posted on 12/22/2011 7:48:43 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I mostly blame the media for what happened under Bush.”

Certainly the media shares blame. But I was in the party structure during the Bush years. The White House systematically excluded conservatives and did it’s best to make sure they did not win primaries. This was true at the state and federal levels. The result is that the R’s who are “on deck” do not include many conservatives. There is much truth to this article.


37 posted on 12/22/2011 8:12:30 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: killermosquito
I love George W. Bush but I wish he had replaced Dick Cheney (who I also love) with a conservative for his race against Kerry. Had that happened we would be been grooming the next President. Instead we got zerobama.

What a simple and brilliant idea. Sounds like a great plan.

The Republican party operatives don't like it, though, because it doesn't fit in with their standard strategic policy for winning, which is the same as the battle plan of the antelope at the middle of a herd.
38 posted on 12/22/2011 8:12:55 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: RichInOC
You know what, no. This field is its own worst enemy.

A lot of the problems in this field have been self-inflicted, but Bush had a Republican majority in Congress, and government should have shrunk instead of increased in size and power.
39 posted on 12/22/2011 9:19:53 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: nathanbedford
Demographics will soon turn Florida and Texas away from us and, with the loss of either one of them, conservatism has no hope of putting a president in the White House

A lot of folks are losing sight of this. Whites already make up less than half of Texas, and within 10-20 years Hispanics will pass them up. I think it's 45% white, 38% Hispanic right now, and Republicans aren't doing a very good job of appealing to Hispanic Conservatives. Pushing amnesty or visas for illegals ain't going to appeal to Hispanic Conservatives.
40 posted on 12/22/2011 9:24:28 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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