Ron Paul Goes Full Metal Truther

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[Steve Van Doorn]

"Not every fatwa is directed to kill someone nor are they directed at the west."

We are talking about Saddam's FATWA's not every FATWA ever made. *focus*

Saddam made FATWA's directed at the US, the West and their leaders with over 500 Islamic scholars signing on to them. These are in essence assassination or war orders by Islam.

[Steve Van Doorn]

said, "He used Muslims to do his dirty work but was not much of one himself at all."

Sorry what is your point? Just because he isn't part of Islam doesn't mean he didn't use Islam.

[Vermont Lt]

You were arguing that Iraq was a secular government. It wasn’t.

I don’t care about what Fatwas he ordered or who signed on to them. He was doing just fine trying to kill GHW Bush without issuing fatwas.

Your point is simply incorrect.

[Steve Van Doorn]

"I don’t care about what Fatwas he ordered

You were arguing that Iraq was a secular government. It wasn’t."

If he ordered FATWAS his government was NON-secular by definition. This isn't that difficult to understand. It would be equal to our president financing and ordering the Catholic church to conduct a crusade.

[Vermont Lt]

But I always get the last word!

Have a great day!

[RegulatorCountry]

Just because he isn't part of Islam doesn't mean he didn't use Islam.

Yes, that's what I've been saying. Hussein was decadent, cynical and manipulative. He wasn't Muslim himself but used Muslims to do his dirty work.

[Steve Van Doorn]

i am sorry I thought you were saying he was secular. my mistake.

[Steve Van Doorn]

If our president used the church to finance and conduct crusades would that make our government secular or non-secular?

[RegulatorCountry]

The both of you have been using the word “secular” incorrectly. Secular is not religious.

Saddam Hussein ran a secular government over a nation comprised largely of Muslims. He used Muslims and Muslim terminology to further his ends. He was not himself Muslim and neither were his sons nor the upper echelons of his regime.

I’m not certain why this has turned into a lengthy circular debate, but it appears to have done so, and with this I’m getting off the merry-go-round because it’s pointless, regardless of whatever point you might have wished to make two days ago.

Have the last word, enjoy it and be done with it, please.

[Steve Van Doorn]

RegulatorCountry said, "Secular is not religious."

no wonder we are not communicating.
Secular means 'not religious'? We are not talking about the individual but the national policy. The national policy was to finance a Crusade against you and me. The nation didn't do a lot in terms of forcing Sharia up everyones butt

[Vermont Lt]

I still get the last word.

[ejonesie22]

You're dead Jim...