Ron Paul Tells Newsmax: I Support Israel

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[Grunthor]

I will answer your question just as soon as you define what you mean by the word “military.”

[trisham]

Like attracts like.

[John D]

Do the people working on military bases not support the military?

Some do, some do not. I knew many who were actually in the military who did not support it. While I do not know him, and his actions prove it, Cut and Run was one.

[Veritas_et_libertas]

An earmark is a direction from Congress to the Executive Branch that specifies or designates how federal funds should be spent. Earmarks in the annual appropriations bills are not additional spending — rather, they are a way for Congress to control how the money is used. The United States Constitution clearly places the responsibility to spend the public’s money in the hands of Congress, not in the hands of the President or federal bureaucracies — which is who would spend it otherwise.

Just sayin’...

[dragnet2]

Here is someone who actually did some research, on the 2011 Q2 FEC report to discern where the candidates are getting their support from...Running the numbers on FEC site http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2011/Q2/

Paul:
ARMY 554.50
ARMY RESERVE 201.20
DEFENSE DEPT 244.32
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 701.20
DEPARTMENT OF NAVY 250.00
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE 227.60
DEPT ARMY 100.00
DEPT OF DEFENSE 1,000.00
DOD 1,869.60
DOD – US NAVY 400.00
INDIANA ARMY NATIONAL GUARD 100.00
MILITARY 1,452.40
NAVY 50.00
NEVADA AIR NATIONAL GUARD 250.00
U S NAVY 250.00
UNITED STATES AIR FORCE 451.20
UNITED STATES ARMY 302.20
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 301.20
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS / GSSC 329.00
UNITED STATES MILITARY 380.00
UNITED STATES NAVY 2,877.80
US AIR FORCE 3,026.32
US AIRFORCE 212.00
US ARMY 11,057.44
US ARMY RETIRED 201.20
US COAST GUARD 451.20
US MILITARY 551.20
US NAVY 2,320.28
US NAVY RESERVE 801.20
USAF 3,051.28
USAF (RETIRED) 226.20
USCG 137.74
USMC 713.61
USN 1,201.20
USNR 500.00

Total $36739.79

and a breakdown for the other candidates

Santorum
U.S. ARMY 250.00

Pawlenty
AIR FORCE 250.00

Gingrich
U.S.A.F. 525.00
US ARMY 250.00
US NAVY 250.00

Total $1025

Bachmann
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 300.00
NAVY 500.00
U. S. ARMY 250.00
U.S. MILITARY 1,000.00
U.S. NAVY 250.00
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS 250.00

Total $2550

Romney
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE 250.00
DEPT OF DEFENSE 600.00
DOD 500.00
UNITED STATES ARMY 250.00
UNITED STATES NAVY 2,500.00
US NAVY 500.00
USMC 250.00

Total $4750

Cain
AIR FORCE 73.00
DOD 250.00
GA NATIONAL GUARD 500.00
U. S. ARMY 500.00
U.S. AIR FORCE 750.00
U.S. ARMY 800.00
US ARMY 1,000.00
US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS 250.00
US NAVY 600.00
USAF 500.00
USAF/TEACHER 250.00
USMC 750.00

Total $6223

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Is this all propaganda too?

You are free to run your own numbers.

Care to give it a shot?

[dragnet2]

See #85.

Run your own numbers if ya dare.

[dragnet2]

I will answer your question just as soon as you define what you mean by the word “military.”

You're Bill Clinton?

[Grunthor]

Not once have I tried to refute your argument that Paul is ahead of everyone else in fundraising. I have only been arguing that you should not lump civilian employees in as “U.S. Military.” It makes it sound as if you are trying to inflate his numbers by combining money that civilians donate to him with what servicemen and woman give to him.

If that was not your intent, I apologize.

If it was well....par for the course.

[Grunthor]

Yeah I didn’t think you would.

[dragnet2]

You said the links were lies, propaganda.

Did you bother to read and do the research on where others have, on the 2011 Q2 FEC report to discern where the candidates are getting their support from at the FEC site:

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2011/Q2/

[dragnet2]

Since you alleged all these links are “propaganda” could you provide a link showing which GOP candidate has received more contributions from member’s of the military?

This should be really easy for you.

Why have you not done this?

[dragnet2]

Which GOP candidate has received the most contributions from the military?

Do you dare answer this?

Why not?

[John D]

You know this is all bunk. This includes people ASSOCIATED with the military. This is the same bunk that was debunked in the last election cycle. The Weekly Standard debunked it.
Anybody who actually served knows that someone who is serving does not have an extra $200-$1,000 to send to a candidate. A person can put down what ever they want on the donation. It does not make it true.

[Grunthor]

Yeah...what he said.

[dragnet2]

Could you provide a link showing which GOP candidate has received the most contributions from member’s of the military?

This should be relatively easy.

Thanks!

[Grunthor]

Enjoy.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/10/the_fantasy_of_ron_pauls_milit.asp

[dragnet2]

Nice blog...

Could you provide a link showing which GOP candidate has received the most contributions from member’s of the military?

This should be relatively easy.

Thanks!

[Grunthor]

Could you provide a link showing which GOP candidate has received the most contributions from member’s of the military?

This should be relatively easy.

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I am sure it would be easy. I simply don’t care. I am fairly positive that Ron Paul is not leading among active duty servicemen and women however. You wouldn’t happen to have a link that says he is would you?

[John D]

Can you show an honest one? The servicemen and women I know. The ones who actually respect the military (like my son who recently returned from Iraq with a piece of shrapnel in his neck) would NEVER give the surrender monkey a dime. Even if they could afford it.
A person can put down what ever they want on donation forms. The way Paulbots work on spamming straw and internet polls it is very likely this would be a part of their agenda.

[dragnet2]

Could you provide a link showing which GOP candidate has received the most contributions from member’s of the military?

This should be relatively easy.

I am sure it would be easy. I simply don’t care.

You don't care about supporting your own allegations/argument?

There ya have it!