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The Ron Paul Factor (Why he's surging even as others are stagnant or stumbling)
National Review ^ | 12/06/2011 | Robert Costa

Posted on 12/06/2011 7:14:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: svcw

Daniel Hannon - UK Minister disagrees with you. please fell free to dispute any of these clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZA0-9_8DIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZX8D7grPDg


21 posted on 12/06/2011 7:57:07 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: ejonesie22

Lay off the sugar and pot kids?

This 60 year old vet Who has ran a succesfull business for the
most of his life is starting to look at Ron Paul.
Do I smoke pot? not in 40 years,
Should it be illegal? No, Why? you cant legislate morality and over the years I Have seen more lives destroyed with booze than pot. Prior to the “war on drugs” we had less people
using than we do now.
If Paul is so anti military why is one of his strongest areas of support the military?

Lastly I wonder at the denigration of Paul ie.
Paultards,Rupaul etc. seems to be right out of the lefts playbook


22 posted on 12/06/2011 7:58:52 AM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s unelectable and unsuitable to be President.

He is correct in his criticism of the federal reserve.

He is correct in that we need to scale back our foreign interventions. Going to happen sooner or later anyway because were flat broke.

This is something a lot of folks on FR do not want to hear.


23 posted on 12/06/2011 8:01:35 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: SeekAndFind

He has a ceiling , even among disgruntled Republicans. I think him winning Iowa is fine; somebody has to stop Gingrich early on.


24 posted on 12/06/2011 8:01:35 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: GlockThe Vote

If I were having a dialog on FR with a UK Minister your reply would make sense, I did however post to you.
Paul is not as trust worthy as you think he is, that is the issue between us not what a foreign national thinks.


25 posted on 12/06/2011 8:02:15 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem with Paul is that his foreign policy sucks. The problem with the rest of the candidates is that their domestic policy, and some of their foreign policy, sucks.


26 posted on 12/06/2011 8:07:45 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: GlockThe Vote

Just so you know Daniel Hannan is considered the Ron Paul of the UK - nuff said.


27 posted on 12/06/2011 8:07:54 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Paul blames America for 9-11-01, even the traitor in the wh hasnt done that yet!


28 posted on 12/06/2011 8:08:05 AM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: gunnyg
Dr Paul is the only choice both 2008 and 2012!

Only for the OWS and blame America first crowds.
29 posted on 12/06/2011 8:08:53 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: italianquaker

He is citing directly from the 9/11 Commission Report findings for what it is worth.


30 posted on 12/06/2011 8:10:29 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: standing man
If you have seen some of these folks Paul buses in to these polls a long with some of his “legalize drugs” sycophants here you would understand the reference...

The denigration of Paul here has nothing to do with the left playbook, it has to do with his anti Semitic pro Muslim rhetoric, 9/11 truthers BS and surrender monkey approach...

Oddly enough all that is IN the lefty playbook...

31 posted on 12/06/2011 8:14:59 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: GlockThe Vote
hhhhmmmm - who else but paul and perry actually served in the military?

What difference does it make if appeasement Paul served in the military. He served while under a big red cross that even the Cong had enough dignity not to invade.
I knew many cowards who served during Viet Nam. That does not mean they are capable of being president. Nobody who blames all the problems in the world on America deserves to even be considered.
32 posted on 12/06/2011 8:16:08 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: GlockThe Vote; italianquaker

And that means what that Paul jumps on any chance to blame America? A discredited report by a bunch of Washington thugs means what to the normal person on the street. Even the most dense knows that the USA was not irrepressible for 9/11 it was the terrorist who were responsible.
If you want to support a guy who uses every opportunity to blame America it is your right, I find him a danger in general and if he were to be elected we are in deep trouble.
He wants to gut the military, end CIA, FBI, open boarders (no fence of any kind)....well you are supporter you know what he wants.
Oh, and please don’t use “the military supports him”, that has been debunked time and again.


33 posted on 12/06/2011 8:19:21 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: standing man
Paultards,Rupaul etc. seems to be right out of the lefts playbook

Well Appeasement Paul is out in left field, and is the poster child for the blame America first leftists.
34 posted on 12/06/2011 8:20:43 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: ejonesie22

I am a married, 71 year old grandfather of 5. I do not live in my mother’s basement. I am not in an institution. I am still working full time as a consultant, and thanks to the fact that the company I contract with is afraid to hire, I am having the best earning years of my life.
I have grandchildren for whom I would give my life in an instant. This country is in a crisis. I have become a Ron Paul supporter. If I am willing to die for my grandkids, I can easily take the CR@P my fellow Freepers can dish out.
The more I see the way this election is going, the more convinced I am this is our last chance, short of civil war, to save it. I am now part of the mile deep, inch wide, support for the crazy man. I don’t know what line you have to cross to be Zotted, and if this crosses that line, than so be it.
If that is the case, my last request would be for my fellow Freepers to just consider if things are really as bad for America as we all seem to be crying about that we are serious about preparing for blood in the streets and how in the H@11 can you continue to so glibly spout off about the “dope crazy, foreign policy nut” supported by dope crazed kids in their mom’s basement?
At this point in time I consider the FED and Washington Elites to be a clear and present danger to my grandkids. The loss of our Constitution of more pressing danger that the presence of some nukes in Iran. Either it is as bad as most on FR are sensing it is, or we are all engaged in an armchair circle jerk.
If you have read this far, I thank you for your attention. I respect a reasonable discussion. You can save your own 12 old tantrums for the very few other kids on the block.


35 posted on 12/06/2011 8:22:22 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: svcw

U.S. Govt incompetence by the INS, FBI, and other agencies allowed 9/11 to happen.

of course the terrorists are to blame first and foremost - but please dont be so naive and blind. the FBI ignored warnings, the INS ok’d visa applications that a blind man would deny, etc.


36 posted on 12/06/2011 8:22:29 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: ejonesie22

And you support the “Drug War”, especially in light of what we just found out with Fast n Furious, the money laundering, etc?

I have never done drugs, but at this point I think it is safe to say the “Drug War” is a failure and needs to end.


37 posted on 12/06/2011 8:24:51 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

If not for Iran I might have voted for Paul...


38 posted on 12/06/2011 8:24:51 AM PST by dervish (female candidates: the last frontier)
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To: Gadsden1st; ejonesie22

I think you are correct, it is as bad as people are sensing so that is why I would never support a “blame America first” candidate for president.


39 posted on 12/06/2011 8:27:11 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: SeekAndFind

all I know is that his latest TV ad sounds more like it it promoting a Monster Truck Pull at the fairgrounds. SUNDAY!SUNDAY!SUNDAY!


40 posted on 12/06/2011 8:28:03 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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