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The Ron Paul Factor (Why he's surging even as others are stagnant or stumbling)
National Review ^ | 12/06/2011 | Robert Costa

Posted on 12/06/2011 7:14:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: standing man; Gadsden1st; Dr. Sivana; SeekAndFind; mo; Iggles Phan; GlockThe Vote; ejonesie22; ...
Standing man:

"What is more conservative than returning to a 'constitutional government????'"

1. Chaining and restraining SCOTUS excesses on social issues.

2. Putting an end once and for all to the American Holocaust which has slaughtered more than 50 million innocent unborn infants, sliced, diced and hamburgerized by licensed medical personnel hired to do the killing and now to be subsidized by tax dollars. Ron Paul, ignoring the personhood language of the 14th Amendment, while cowering behind the 10th Amendment and CLAIMING to be "pro-life" at his frequent posing for holy pictures sessions with press and media, absolutely REFUSES to DO anything to stop the killing of American babies. A position which his libertoonian college crowd lusts for so that child support can be avoided by dragging pregnant Susie down to the abortion mill by the ear.

3. Understanding and acting accordingly that the demoralization of our military and of our society resulting from the ongoing campaign to destroy the normal concept of marriage, and to subsidize homosexuality and similar perversions by tax subsidies for pervert relationships and medical benefits for "domestic partners" whether the shackups are heterosexual or perverts, by allowing child adoption by pervert pairs and interfering with Catholic and other religious charities for not turning the kiddies over for molestation. (If you don't like the goings on by perverted clergy or at the Penn State football program or in Franklin County, Nebraska [See Franklin Coverup] or all too many other similar situations in many locations, then you ought not be pleased with Ron Paul's attitude of DOING nothing on social issues while hiding behind the skirts of the 10th Amendment, claiming to be pro-family and wink, winking to his libertoonian college legion).

4. Defending this nation from further Islamofascist depredations like 9/11 by killing the bastards in THEIR homelands (preferably by death from the sky) and destroying the Islamofascist capacity for war.

5. Accepting the obvious fact that Alex Jones, Infowars, the John Birch Society and other Troofers are hallucinating along with Ron Paul, David Duke, Stormfront, neonazis, Code Pink, International ANSWER and the rest when they seriously entertain the lunacy that 9/11 was an "inside job," perpetrated by us.

6. Abandoning the insanity that letters of marque and reprisal are somehow a substitute for the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and other military professionals. In the same spirit, the crackpot Ron Paul might issue and executive order banning computers, ball points, pencils, and even fountain pens in favor of quills and ink wells, and ban internal combustion and other modern engines in favor of horses and wagons.

7. Understanding that the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

8. Understanding and actually acting accordingly that it is NOT enough to CLAIM fiscal conservatism while stuffing every Appropriations bill with tons of pork for Galveston (like shrimping subsidies, nursing scholarships, and a cornucopia of other actually unconstitutional goodies), then voting against the Appropriations bill in question, but knowing cynically all along that while he takes credit for voting NO, his more honestly liberal colleagues (however corrupt) will provide the majority votes for his pork along with their own.

There are many others but those should suffice as examples of what is more conservative than Ron Paul's crackpot notions of what constitutes "constitutional government."

P.S. I don't care what paleoPaulie CLAIMS to believe. He is running for POTUS and not for wannabe philosopher king. What matters is his track record, his fraudulent two-faced dishonesty on most issues (or his rank insanity as you may prefer) and not his carefully rehearsed act.

141 posted on 12/06/2011 1:28:34 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: All; little jeremiah

I think I should just cut and paste this. It seems to me that the Paultards are incapable of learning.

FOR THE GAZILLIONTH TIME THIS WEEK: FREE REPUBLIC IS A CONSERVATIVE WEBSITE, NOT A LIBERALTARIAN WEBSITE!

Just because RuPaul utters the magic words “smaller government, lower taxes, and Constitution” he doesn’t “fundamentally transform” into a Conservative. A Conservative also believes in morality. That means:

—resisting the homosexual pervert agenda that Paul keeps pushing.

—resisting the Shariah Law that Paul’s Iranian Islamo-Nazi pals keep pushing.

—refusing to find common ground with leftist lunatics like Dennis Kucinich, Bernie Sanders, and Cindy Sheehan.

—refraining from calling the US “imperialist” like some Moveon.dork twerp.


142 posted on 12/06/2011 1:32:39 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: dragnet2
Hide? No, indeed what we are doing is the opposite of hiding, that is what Ron Paul wants to do.

You maybe willing to sacrifice a few hundred thousands of your fellow Americans to make way for your idol, I am not.

You may enjoy ignorance of how things work, I don't. Iran is space capable, two satellites orbited more to come. Here is a lesson for you, orbit means going around the planet at least one time. If you can go around it you can come down where ever. replace satellite with nuke, drop where ever. Even if it is just “approximately’ aimed at the East coast how many lives would be lost? or should I ask, how many can you accept...

The best way to stop this is knowledge and that comes form being there, or as close as we can.

Running home is not an option.

Surrender monkey is rather apt for Paul...

143 posted on 12/06/2011 1:34:24 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: mo
IMHO...our military is way over committed. Bring ‘em home...batten down the hatches..button up the border ...take care of our own mess domestically.

Yes, allowing our enemies to lay seige against us, instead of taking the fight to them, has always worked well throughout history/s

144 posted on 12/06/2011 1:35:30 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: BlackElk

Yeah but besides all that...

LOL...


145 posted on 12/06/2011 1:36:56 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: BlackElk

I’m going with “rank insanity.”

Then again, I’m just a “war-mongering Zionist” to the Ronulans. What do I know ?


146 posted on 12/06/2011 1:38:26 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: lormand

“We are broke because we spend too much on entitlements and vote buying schemes, not because of the military.”

Very True.

Unfortunately even the military is going to be cut because of our economic problems. Military power is based on economic power and our economic power has been declining for years. I wish this was not true.


147 posted on 12/06/2011 1:42:33 PM PST by desertfreedom765
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To: GlockThe Vote

His words and his defense of it makes him a traitor to many


148 posted on 12/06/2011 1:42:48 PM PST by italianquaker ( Mr Obama inherited an AAA rating and made it AA, thnx Resident Zero)
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To: TheBigIf
In typical leftist fashion you have to get out your ‘blame Bush’ Trillions of dollars in bad loans prompted by government being in the housing and banking industries was certainly not caused by our military defending the nation.

What a moron you are...You're told the same Commander in Chief in his own words, was pushing home loans for totally unqualified minorities, just a few years prior the collapse, he and ya know his strategy of fighting compassionate 12 year long wars, costing trillions....And then when someone tosses this up in your face, ya cry and claim their leftist...

Getting that monkey movie felling again.

It's a GD mad house.

149 posted on 12/06/2011 1:43:01 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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To: SoldierDad
Yelling “stop, we are closed for remodeling” at missiles will not stop them from hitting?

Darn it...

150 posted on 12/06/2011 1:43:18 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: dragnet2; ejonesie22
Ya might as well take our fleets of nuclear submarines which are roaming the seven seas, take the biggest baddest meanest air force on the globe, our thousands of nuke weapons and delivery systems, the biggest baddest armies and military on the planet, and run and hide from those big bad Muslims in Iran you fear so much.

You (dragnet2) must not pay much attention to the news! Perhaps you should. If you did, you'd know that China has come out in support of Iran, and stated they would provide military support to Iran if it is attacked. Now, maybe Iran doesn't "frighten" you, but how do you feel about China? Hmmm?

151 posted on 12/06/2011 1:43:53 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

” ‘and Ron Paul has stood up for true conservative principles for decades, not just in the last month.’ “

Was he doing that when he refused to support the Constitutional amendment to defend marriage ? How about when he voted to repeal DADT ? Was that Conservative ? Maybe it’s his stance about legalizing drugs and prostitution....yeah, that’s the ticket!

RuPaul is to Conservative like kitten is to blocking fullback.


152 posted on 12/06/2011 1:45:29 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: ejonesie22

It also won’t do much against cyber attacks ;-)


153 posted on 12/06/2011 1:45:38 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad
Oh now come on, if we follow Ron Paul's way, we will come home, button up and be all cozy. Iranian nukes will just fly on by and if not and we respond we just say “We no home now” when the Chinese come callin...
154 posted on 12/06/2011 1:52:30 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

LOL You want to rape the USC for a marriage amendment? Why not leave it to the states?

If VT wants gay marriage, why do you care? If NH wants to ban gay marriage, let those twinks go to VT.

Why should the federal govt be in the marriage business?


155 posted on 12/06/2011 1:53:42 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: SoldierDad
Paul's cyber groups will just set up a wall of spam to protect us.

If they can remember where they kept the laptop....

156 posted on 12/06/2011 1:56:16 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: dragnet2

And what was your purpose for bringing up President Bush? I had simply listed the housing issue as one factor in a long list of progressive government programs and you focus in on President Bush? Then you go on your anti-American war rant? There is no way to tell you apart from a leftist with such talking points. (anti-Bush and anti-American war)

And while yes President Bush was guilty of buying into some progressive schemes such as in regards to housing he also tried to apply conservative principles to these schemes and warned repeatedly that the GSEs needed to be reformed or else we could face such a collapse. Other republicans did as well. It was your leftists buddies in the democrat party who resisted any reform at all of these massive progressive programs and schemes.

Basically the left-wing rarely if ever will allow reform being that the Marxist thrives on misery and failure. They never will accept accountability for their failed policies and will always use dupes like you to conflate the issue by casting blame on their opposition for their progressive failures. Instead of laying the blame where it should be, you are using the failure of left-wing policies to attack republicans. Pathetic.


157 posted on 12/06/2011 1:59:31 PM PST by TheBigIf
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To: GlockThe Vote

Morals, morality-—AKA the other side of the Conservative coin.

Heterosexual marriage is the cornerstone of the family, which in turn, is the cornerstone of our country.

See, regardless of what the Ronulans seem to think, the United States of America was founded on Judeo-Christian values and moral principles.

You can’t be a moral nation with Adam and Steve pretending to be Adam and Eve.


158 posted on 12/06/2011 2:09:30 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: TheBigIf
And while yes President Bush was guilty of buying into some progressive schemes such as in regards to housing he also tried to apply conservative principles to these schemes

Bushbot cognitive dissonance is so 2006.

159 posted on 12/06/2011 2:10:52 PM PST by jmc813
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To: SoldierDad
You (dragnet2) must not pay much attention to the news! Perhaps you should. If you did, you'd know that China has come out in support of Iran

Wait a minute here...Is this a big surprise to you?

Did ya think Communist China was ever your friend?

This was the same country that threatened the U.S. with nuclear weapons years ago?

Good God Billy Bob...

Hey Mr. Dad, did ya do your Christmas shopping at Chinamart yet...I hear they got some good deals on Communist Chinese products!

This place is crawling with Commie apologist and those who are surprised Communist China is not their friend...

In a country gone mad...

160 posted on 12/06/2011 2:13:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit))
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