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Has the War with Iran Already Begun?
National Journel ^ | December 4, 2011 | Michael Hirsh

Posted on 12/05/2011 6:37:50 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron

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To: Las Vegas Ron

Iran has been at war with the USA since 1979. US embassy attack (an act of war), USMC barracks bombing in Lebanon (an act of war), providing EFP (explosive formed penetrator) IED’s to the Afghan and Iraqi (al Qaeda) non-uniformed enemy combatant/saboteurs/assassins. (all of whom are not given protections under the Geneva conventions of which the Taliban/al Qaeda are not signatory parties, and therefore are subject to summary execution under Geneva convention rules.) All acts of War. If it was 1900, we would have already brutally defeated Iran in an unrestricted war.

I could win a war vs. Iran in a week. Set a date for their anti establishment citizens to riot. The day of the riot bomb the Revolutionary guards, basiji, and gendarmes as they gather to quell the riots. Bomb the refineries and crude oil transfer equipment. Bomb all electical distribution hubs. Bomb every Iranian Navy vessel. Air drop tens of thousands of assassination pistols to the anti government rebels. Have a BBQ on Friday night. Watch the NCAA football game of the week on Saturday. Worship the god of choice on Sunday. Read the Newspaper on Monday about the collapse of the Mullocracy.


21 posted on 12/05/2011 8:19:47 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Chode

HK’s date back to the Shahs time.
The Shah set up a manufacturing plant for them.


22 posted on 12/05/2011 8:36:18 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Obadiah
could be, i didn't see it
23 posted on 12/05/2011 8:38:19 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: buwaya
they definitely look vintage the way the bluing is gone from the barrels and receivers
24 posted on 12/05/2011 8:41:53 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Dallas59

“No ground troops while bozobammy is in office. Surgical strikes to prevent civilian losses.”

It’s a truism of war that you can never win without putting boots on the ground. Airstrikes to soften up the targets are just fine but you’ll always have jock rash if you don’t take decisive action.


25 posted on 12/05/2011 8:54:14 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; jhpigott
Iran has been at war with several countries for decades.

It seems SOMEBODY has decided to strike back.

I think it is both the US and Israel.

Obama thinks he can avoid war, or worse for him politically...a nuclear Iran by these methods.

He might be right.

While the military damage is not enormous and could not destroy Iran's capability, these attacks are causing ENORMOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL PRESSURE in Iran.

The Iranians know they cannot win a shooting war and have concentrated their efforts on the propaganda and intimidation war.

Hitting Iran and not claiming "credit" is brilliant IMHO. Either they will start the full-on shooting war (which the good guys win easily), or the people take to the streets again...seriously, or perhaps even members of the regular Army decide they've had it.

Odds of one of those occurring, IMO, are about 25%.

It's worth a shot. After that we use whatever force is necessary to ensure the permanent death of the Iranian Bomb.

In the mean time enjoy the EXCELLENT theater.

26 posted on 12/05/2011 9:03:09 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ClearCase_guy; garjog
"Unconditional Surrender."

"It works".

Not against "insurgents".

The only method that works is when a signle bullet leave a window in a little shack...the entire city must be razed and burned to the ground. Completely.

Move to the next one.

They are committed to total war. We must be too.

27 posted on 12/05/2011 9:11:25 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ClearCase_guy

its a minority who are crazy in Iran....


28 posted on 12/05/2011 9:25:34 PM PST by cherry
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Unconditional Surrender.

It works.”

I’ve never really understood this “measured response” crap. Overwhelming destruction and survivors (if any) suing for peace after unconditional surrender brings real peace. Anything else is a very temporary illusion. Iran had already done more than enough to provoke this by arming their agents in Iraq leading to the deaths and severe injuries to thousands of Americans.

Total victory has been shown to be the only way to a long-term peach again and again throughout history, which no one (except the military) actually studies anymore.


29 posted on 12/05/2011 9:27:19 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

our current “leadership” knows exactly what its doing....will get a nice war going against the hated Iran just in time for the election....and you know, it would be unpatriotic to criticize a president when there is a war...
/sarcasm/


30 posted on 12/05/2011 9:28:47 PM PST by cherry
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To: Las Vegas Ron

IRAN is the target and yes they are going down.


31 posted on 12/05/2011 9:29:54 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
I sincerely hope we get to repay the mullahs for their treachery one day.

Amen to that brother! We owe them a helluva payback...going all the way back to 1979. It's coming.

32 posted on 12/06/2011 7:10:11 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: pgkdan; Ozymandias Ghost

And I assure you...I have not forgotten how our Marines were murdered in that cowardly attack in Beirut!


33 posted on 12/06/2011 7:13:33 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: pgkdan
Hi pgkdan-

It's ironic; the legendary Ronald Reagan admitted this event was probably the the worst day in his life; and, yet today very few seem to remember that even his Presidency was imperfect.

Many mistakes were made which created an environment that facilitated the truck bombing ...and, even then, the administration insisted on “showing the flag” while career diplomats imposed a litany of overly restrictive ROE’s that frequently left Marines exposed to both snipers and indirect fire from mortars.

If you haven't read it, Eric Hammel’s book, “The Root” is an excellent account of the bombing of the Marine Barracks in Beirut and the events that led up to it.

Regards,

-Geoff

34 posted on 12/06/2011 10:50:23 AM PST by Ozymandias Ghost
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