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Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans
Ammoland ^ | 19 November, 2011 | Evan F. Nappen

Posted on 11/21/2011 10:30:41 AM PST by marktwain

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I believe I met Evan once, quite a few years ago, at a Gun Rights Policy Conference.
1 posted on 11/21/2011 10:30:45 AM PST by marktwain
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Take THAT ya anti-gunners!

Note to self - must purchase Saiga-20 Autoloading Shotgun.

2 posted on 11/21/2011 10:37:44 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

Yeah, now that we know what they’re trying to grab this time.


3 posted on 11/21/2011 10:42:44 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Other good things have happened.

Major Victories in Congress for Gun Owners(NRA)

"-- Firearms Trace Data Disclaimer. A requirement that any trace data released must include a disclaimer stating such trace data cannot be used to draw broad conclusion about firearms-related crime."

Kinda makes me smile here. This is in response to the Administration's claims that guns from America are used in a lot of violent crime in Mexico.

4 posted on 11/21/2011 10:51:00 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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I highly doubt the liberals are going to honor such a restriction on the data. Obama’s DoJ will release it, and the left will demagog it.


5 posted on 11/21/2011 10:53:50 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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To: marktwain

Like the Beretta Extrema 2 which can shoot twelve 12ga. rounds in less than two seconds?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2mFcsa7mw


6 posted on 11/21/2011 10:56:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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Note to self - must purchase Saiga-20 Autoloading Shotgun.

What's a Saiga-20? 20ga version of the Saiga-12?

Here's a review and video of the Saiga-12. The video is worth the price of admission just to see and hear the redneck with the braided beard (I would presume that's Jeff Quinn).

My favorite quote from the review: "Within its range, nothing beats a well-tuned shotgun for social work." ROFL!

7 posted on 11/21/2011 10:58:10 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: marktwain

Why is just the Ssaiga 20 mentioned? The Saiga 12 is a far more effective shotgun and would have far more buyers.

Or, is the gauge just a randomly selected example?


8 posted on 11/21/2011 10:59:48 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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Wonder how that one slipped by Obama, oh well, he'll probably just issue an executive order correcting his little “oversite”?
9 posted on 11/21/2011 11:01:59 AM PST by apillar
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In a couple of days I’ll go to the gun dealer near me who sells Saiga and learn the difference.


10 posted on 11/21/2011 11:05:24 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I want one. NO, I NEED one.


11 posted on 11/21/2011 11:09:45 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLD0474A44C087F046


12 posted on 11/21/2011 11:14:21 AM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

OMG!!! I must rethink a purchase of a Saiga now. 12 ROUNDS in a little over 2 seconds! Low recoil!


13 posted on 11/21/2011 11:15:43 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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>> OMG!!! I must rethink a purchase of a Saiga now.

Yeah, that Saiga looks pretty brutal on the shoulder relative to the Beretta. I just wish the Beretta came with a shorter barrel (but then you wouldn’t have the capacity I guess).

I’ve also got my eye on a Mossberg 930 SPX. I’m sure it’s nowhere near the Beretta in recoil reduction but it costs much less.


14 posted on 11/21/2011 11:27:35 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: marktwain

The paperwork approval for importation will take a verrrry long time, I think.


15 posted on 11/21/2011 11:29:19 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: marktwain

Glad I clicked through to the article and saw this little advertisement!

16 posted on 11/21/2011 11:42:14 AM PST by concentric circles
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To: Nervous Tick
I really DO like a shorter barrel. But I'm thinking down the road for something my wife could fire without dislocating her shoulder.

That Beretta could quickly and positively prevent a passel of perps from performing something particularly pathetic.

17 posted on 11/21/2011 12:03:03 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: marktwain

ping for later


18 posted on 11/21/2011 12:06:31 PM PST by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Osage Orange
"Don't try dis at home. I'm a professional Russian." LOL

Not only is it recoilless it seemed to be sound suppressed. He doesn't appear to be wearing any hearing protection and it doesn't sound that loud in the audio track. Maybe that's just the way the video equipment recorded it and he's blasting his professional Russian ear drums out.

19 posted on 11/21/2011 12:09:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
Ha!!

The guy does some good video's..........

20 posted on 11/21/2011 12:25:43 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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