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The pornographic pandemic - we are awash in porn
Life Site News ^ | 11/18/2011 | Patrick A Trueman

Posted on 11/19/2011 5:02:31 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: webstersII

It will just go back to the way it used to be with buletin boards and newssites.


101 posted on 11/19/2011 8:47:16 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: hopespringseternal
One can't help but notice that the easy availability of porn and the rise in frequency of sexual crimes are highly correlated.

Forcible rape has fallen by about a third in the last 20 years:

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

Would it not be more accurate to say that the easy availability of porn and the fall in frequency of sexual and other violent crimes are highly correlated.

102 posted on 11/19/2011 9:00:58 AM PST by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: ken5050

Interesting.

So, if there is so much free porn, then it may become less lucrative and possibly be somewhat self limiting?

Not sure I like the idea of bandwidth usage fees - it will punish those of us who use the internet for other things. But, you’re right - it would definitely limit it.


103 posted on 11/19/2011 9:06:06 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: IbJensen

I disagree that pornography, on its own, is the cause of the problem. People who are sexually happy in a good relationship with a committed spouse are far less likely to use, or even want to use pornography.

And here is the bombshell: In the US, there is almost NO means by which children can be “cross gender socialized” in a healthy and chaperoned environment. Boys and girls are effectively so isolated from each other in their youth that they have no experience at all with even a non-sexual relationship with the opposite gender, well into adulthood.

If you raise a dog at home without exposing it to other dogs, it will see other dogs as its enemy, and a threat. If it is eventually mated, both dogs will have to wear muzzles, and the *hope* is that lust will overcome hate, at least long enough for them to copulate.

And why should we assume that children are substantially different?

When this is said, most people respond, “Well don’t children become socialized in school and in church?”

Absolutely not. In both cases, adults carefully manage the children’s time with other tasks and requirements. And in the case of school, every hour on the hour, students change classrooms and are around a different group of students. And in church, for most children, it is only once a week, for a short time.

Today, especially, adults feel compelled to “burn out” their children with activities of all kinds, alternating with abandoning their children with electronic devices: television, computers, games, etc. Making children’s childhood so intense that they are both alone and exhausted.

Perhaps the best indicator of how screwed up we have become socially is that more and more people cannot stand physical intimacy, which is not the same as sex. Our culture pushes children hard to be “sexually active”, long before they are ready to be sexual.

But this is like mating anti-social dogs. Just muzzled copulation then to go their separate ways before they attack each other. With people, such an unpleasant and unsatisfying experience that it is no surprise that pornography fills the gap.

Just a sexually stimulating image or video, instead of having to go to the difficulty of meeting and having non-reproductive sex with someone they won’t have a relationship with, and don’t want to have a relationship with.

It’s not pornography’s fault.


104 posted on 11/19/2011 9:08:45 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SuzyQue

How would charges based on bandwidth punish you, if you don’t download movies and/or are a gamer? Seems to me you’d benefit from lower charges..


105 posted on 11/19/2011 9:15:24 AM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050

Maybe I misunderstand. If I am “on” much of the day, as in my internet connection is active even though I may not be on the computer, aren’t I using bandwidth?

And, I read a lot on the computer - probably a couple of hours a day. What would that do?


106 posted on 11/19/2011 9:19:30 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: SuzyQue

I’m no expert..but watching a movie uses much, much more bandwith than say, Freeping..maybe a techical person can explain for both of us..


107 posted on 11/19/2011 9:22:39 AM PST by ken5050
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s the other problem. It makes other stuff that’s bad seem less worse by relative comparison, and thus more acceptable. Even calling it ‘cheesecake’ when in the past people would view it as dressing like a whore.


108 posted on 11/19/2011 10:04:17 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Not all. But I’d say the large majority. Problem is so many that would HAVE made good pastors if they could have had a family aren’t there because of the celibacy requirement, so your candidate pool is made artificially small and full of liars (as they didn’t keep their vows, and I am certain many of them never intended to but took the vows anyway, being closeted homosexuals mainly).


109 posted on 11/19/2011 10:09:23 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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One of the best articles I've seen on the evils of pornography. Whether one us a Catholic or not, the quote below is true and apt:

“Pornography … offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others

110 posted on 11/19/2011 10:52:58 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: TSgt
Everyone has sinned. The issue at hand is organizational accountability and credibility. There’s a big difference...

Christians and/or the Church should expect to be called into account whenever their actions belie what they profess to believe.

However, many people are looking for any reason to attack Christians and/or the Church and latch onto any and all accusations without knowing the facts of the matter. In their minds, Christians or the Church are hypocritical, and they can therefore smugly dispose of any personal responsibility towards God.

Not being Catholic, I nevertheless believe from what I have learned that the Church has been more responsible in dealing with sexual abuse than some other organizations. Probably hundreds of millions of dollars will be paid out by the Church to victims.

As far as I know, Penn State has shown no interest thus far in paying restitution to any of Sandusky's victims (But there hasn't been a trial yet!! Well, there wasn't a trial for many of the Church's victims either but the Church paid restituition nonetheless).

Where are those who are so quick to condemn the Church? Are they speaking out as loud for restitution for Sandusky's victims and condemning Penn State for being "responsible" (just as the Church is responsible for the actions of wayward priests)?

Often people have double standards regarding this issue.

111 posted on 11/19/2011 11:08:17 AM PST by tjd1454
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To: IbJensen

I just Googled “porn.

About 1,470,000,000 results (0.14 seconds)


112 posted on 11/19/2011 11:54:20 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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113 posted on 11/19/2011 1:09:10 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: philly-d-kidder
Janet Reno did a study in 1997 that reflected 85% of Rapist were addicted to Pornography!

I remember a study from the '90s that concluded that 85% of all children who have contact with Janet Reno will burst into flames.

114 posted on 11/19/2011 1:12:59 PM PST by Redcloak (Mitt Romney: Puttin' the "Country club" back in "Republican".)
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To: Graybeard58
I just Googled “porn.

About 1,470,000,000 results (0.14 seconds)

I got about 1,460,000,000 for porn. (0.08 seconds)

(Engineering Rule: It's that last 1% of performance that will be responsible for a full third of the cost)

115 posted on 11/19/2011 1:25:17 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Rockiette

You have succeeded in insulting me but not in presenting an opposing viewpoint. That is the realm of the intellectually defeated.


116 posted on 11/19/2011 1:37:08 PM PST by sakic
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To: vladimir998

Please point to an organized religion that has a hierarchy that in any way resembles Catholicism. You said it exists. Is there anything like a Pope somewhere that I am unaware of? Is there anything like a Vatican City for another religion? They are an organization and because of that, they naturally have a vested interest in protecting their organization.

Catholicism teaches the right things. Most of the followers are good people. Most of those teaching are good people, but as an organization they have placed more emphasis on protecting themselves than on protecting their own flock.

As to your contention that this is a by product of a few bad bishops, that is pure nonsense. Why were so many priests transferred after they molested? The Church is supposed to have a higher standard than college football.

This whole thing reminds me of the thin blue line for policemen.Most are good people, but when a cop goes bad, most of the good ones ignore it because they are more afraid of being called a rat than doing the right thing. At that moment, they become bad cops, because they are servants of their citizens, not each other. The same applies to people in organized religion. When they protect a bad apple, they become one.

Catholicism is in steep decline in America. A history of protecting child molestation is part of the reason. If they are finally cleaning it up, bravo, but as of now, people keep stepping forward with tales of horrific abuse.

From the Pew Forum:

“While those Americans who are unaffiliated with any particular religion have seen the greatest growth in numbers as a result of changes in affiliation, Catholicism has experienced the greatest net losses as a result of affiliation changes. While nearly one-in-three Americans (31%) were raised in the Catholic faith, today fewer than one-in-four (24%) describe themselves as Catholic.

These losses would have been even more pronounced were it not for the offsetting impact of immigration. The Landscape Survey finds that among the foreign-born adult population, Catholics outnumber Protestants by nearly a two-to-one margin (46% Catholic vs. 24% Protestant)”

All religions have bad people. All atheits have bad people. Every group on the planet has bad people. This is not about people. This is about honesty and dishonesty to the people who follow you and pay your salaries.


117 posted on 11/19/2011 1:59:56 PM PST by sakic
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To: Scotswife

If porn was responsible for all of this lack of morality, homosexual rape would have not existed until Hef published Playboy.

Alcohol has caused far more problems for people than porn, so can I assume that alcohol should be banned again?


118 posted on 11/19/2011 2:05:10 PM PST by sakic
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To: stuartcr

Yup. That’s a good thing most of the time.


119 posted on 11/19/2011 2:07:47 PM PST by sakic
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To: sakic

You can only claim that porn does no harm if you ignore everything in the article. And all the sources. It’s not totally responsible obviously, but it definitely causes myriad problems.

And as far as faggots, they’ve been famous as pederasts and rapists of men since history began.


120 posted on 11/19/2011 2:09:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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