Posted on 11/19/2011 3:30:19 AM PST by Kaslin
It must be in the drinking water, that’s the only way to explain it.
Increasing taxes on the American people is not the way to grow the party, let alone the economy in a recession.
If the GOP hasn’t learned that by now, then its learned nothing.
Close the Departments of Education and Energy. Cut every other agency in government by 10 percent. Stop all foreign aid.
I know Pat Toomey.
This is a public relations move to show that the GOP was willing to go along with “revenue enhancements” but the liberals still would not make a deal.
Toomey and others know the Dems will not take the deal. Instead, John Kerry and others will blame the Republicans on the committee for blocking everything (in keeping with Obama’s campaign theme).
Don’t confuse ideology with playing politics.
Here they go again being snookered. The stupid Republicans selling out the store thinking the libs will reciprocate. What lousy card players or should I use the right term: “traitors,” who are complicit with the Socialists in taxing the hell out of use to destroy our society and economy. Enough is enough.
That said there are only a handful of Congressmen that are both smart enough to make hay and clever enough as extemporaneous speakers to toss said hay over Bobo's head.
“Close the Departments of Education and Energy. Cut every other Agency by 10 percent. Stop all foreign aid.”
The Republican House has the power to do all of these things but it’s leadership lacks either the courage to take a stand or the desire to really stop socialism. It is clear the Democrats have no intention of slowing spending except for the military. They are cleverly framing the debate in a way that forces the Republicans to take the blame if the budget talks fail or force the Republicans to abandon core principles in order to strike a deal. The Democrats are playing to win while the Republican leadership, as usual is playing a defensive game. Unfortunately politics as usual is destroying the nation. So far I haven’t seen that we are better off with a Republican House given the way Boehner is conducting himself. All we seem to have accomplished in 2010 is giving Obama a “Republican Congress” to run against in 2012. I’m beginning to believe the Dems have a winning strategy to retake the House in 2012’ keep the Senate, and return Obama to office.
You can’t win if you don’t fight. I see little fight in the Republicans against a Democrat Party prepared to do anything to control the levers of power.
“Close the Departments of Education and Energy. Cut every other Agency by 10 percent. Stop all foreign aid.”
The Republican House has the power to do all of these things but it’s leadership lacks either the courage to take a stand or the desire to really stop socialism. It is clear the Democrats have no intention of slowing spending except for the military. They are cleverly framing the debate in a way that forces the Republicans to take the blame if the budget talks fail or force the Republicans to abandon core principles in order to strike a deal. The Democrats are playing to win while the Republican leadership, as usual is playing a defensive game. Unfortunately politics as usual is destroying the nation. So far I haven’t seen that we are better off with a Republican House given the way Boehner is conducting himself. All we seem to have accomplished in 2010 is giving Obama a “Republican Congress” to run against in 2012. I’m beginning to believe the Dems have a winning strategy to retake the House in 2012’ keep the Senate, and return Obama to office.
You can’t win if you don’t fight. I see little fight in the Republicans against a Democrat Party prepared to do anything to control the levers of power.
I guess this is coming from the Supercommittee, but I wouldn’t worry about it right now.
The Super-Commottee was formed to fail anyway, so it won’t come from there.
The whole idea was unConstitutional and stupid to begin with.
they must want CWII
Well, I am suprised it came from Republicans, but I am not surprised at this move. Cpmmunists always wipe out the middle class. That’s just what Communists do.
a vote for GOP is a vote for progressives
the DNC and the GOP are the problem. progressives run them both
That only leaves the very poor and very rich in small enough groups to heap the cuts on. We all know which of those two it is acceptable to attack.
That is why I think that only a flat tax with a high personal exemption has any chance of ever passing.
So, for whom would you vote?
The mortgage deduction should only be there for mortgages below $500K. There already is a terrific incentive for people to buy homes - - mortgage interest at 4%.
When we built our home ourselves - as in manual labor - in the 80’s, the mortgage rate was 13 1/2%. We never made enough money to qualify for a deduction. As soon as rates dropped we refinanced down to 11 1/2%, then 9%. We wound up paying off the $25K in less than 20 years. In that time we had two sons at Penn State, but they lived at home and went to a satellite campus for the first two years and worked summers and got their degrees with student loans that amounted to the price of a small car at that time - - $6 and $8K and paid them off. One is now a Ph. D. and the other a PE and PLS.
Of course, it's never their fault. Last night on his show Bill O'Reilly showed a clip with Barney Frank blaming the Republicans for the Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac scandal
Remember the other day, when some of us were in a big disagreement over whether this was a tax increase, or just increased revenues through lowering overall taxes but cutting out “loopholes” so more could not get out of paying their “fair share”?
It was amazing, listening to he rank ignorance from some, who kept claiming that this would be a very good thing. That it would reduce our taxes, reduce the deficit and make more pay who were supposedly getting out of it currently. You know, like those who get deductions for mortgage, charity and deductions for State and local taxes.
But more astounding was the fact that these people kept insisting that this was not a tax increase, it was just a way of increasing revenue while at the same time reducing taxes.
This is like cattle, being fattened for the slaughter house, commenting on how good the food is and how much they have to eat.
I have to point out at least one deeply ironic line from this piece:
...Pennsylvania's Senator Pat Toomey and Texas Congressman Jeb Hensarling, both credentialed conservatives...
Which begs three questions:
1. Credentialed by whom?
2. What are these so-called "credentials"?
3. Just what is their definition of "conservative"?
Eliminating the deductions for state and local taxes would help kill the blue states even faster.... For that matter, since Blue states tend to have higher real-estate prices than red states, capping the home mortgage deduction would disproportionately affect them, too.
I don’t like the idea of a stealth tax increase, but I can see the method to the madness.
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