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Do Indians Hate America?
Bad Eagle ^ | November 13, 2011 | David Yeagley

Posted on 11/14/2011 5:39:10 PM PST by SJackson

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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

What I like best about these threads when I can find them are the anecdotes you learn. I’ve heard of the Papago breakout, but never that story, or about the independent WWI war declaration. Which makes complete sense at the time.


41 posted on 11/14/2011 6:34:28 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: SJackson
I cannot speak for others but my Dine (Navajo) family love their country. Men and women served and serve in the military. But they all have a strong distrust and dislike for the government, my Grandmother really hated the government.

Children taken from the tribe to go to Indian schools, broken treaties, theft of land and minerals, and not able to vote until the very last.

I've been to many "powwows", the American flag is proudly brought out first with the honors deserved.

42 posted on 11/14/2011 6:34:32 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
You come across some really great fry bread at the powwows...and you come across some really rasty fry bread also. You don't dare complain because the fry bread always seems to be from a recipe handed down since before Columbus.
43 posted on 11/14/2011 6:43:03 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: NativeSon
they all have a strong distrust and dislike for the government, my Grandmother really hated the government

Well, the government isn't necessarily America, in differing degrees to different people. Particularly when it came to the Indian schools (Canada too). Not to minimize other grievances, but that was the one designed to destroy cultural values.

44 posted on 11/14/2011 6:46:31 PM PST by SJackson (Haven't changed the environment, just take a bath. Eat a piece of chocolate. You need one. Michelle)
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To: Mike Darancette

Drive west past the Miccosukee Reservation, then continue on US 41 west of 40 Mile Bend, then 50 Mile Bend.

Now, watch along the right side (north side of US 41).

Note the 4X8 sheet of plywood with the racist, pro-Indian, anti-white rant.

Indians have their “Occupier” types, too.

‘Nuff said.


45 posted on 11/14/2011 6:47:09 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: elcid1970
So far nobody has tried to change the Florida State Seminoles name. Too many Seminoles still out there I guess.

I think activist busybodies have tried to bring pressure on FSU to change their name, but the Seminole leaders have always said they are honored by FSU's use of their tribal name and do not want it changed. I heard Bobby Bowden say that more than once during his years as coach.

46 posted on 11/14/2011 6:51:17 PM PST by Will88
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To: SJackson
Exactly. I am a proud American but I do not like or trust the government. Of course any lib educated A.I. has a good chance of turning out just like the useless, marxist wastes of skin we see hating America professionally. We are just like everyone else.

what seems different is the long memory that A.I.'s and tribes seem to have. This has much to do with the verbal tradition and history and that America is who we are. I have many friends that travel to China, India, Ireland, Italy to see where they came from, to visit family. They hang flags and colors of their ancestral home and celebrate the holidays of those lands- the Seven Fishes, can't wait!

This is our home, our emergence point, we are forever bound to this land as were those that came before us.

47 posted on 11/14/2011 7:04:22 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: elcid1970
I knew there was some key part of this story that I was forgetting. The NCAA has tried to ban the use of Indian mascots and Indian related names, as a result of PC pressure from various groups no doubt. Not sure where this now stands, but here is a Google that shows many stories on the subject:

Google: NCAA Indian mascots

48 posted on 11/14/2011 7:04:51 PM PST by Will88
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To: SJackson; fish hawk

I think there are more liberal then conservative American Indians


49 posted on 11/14/2011 7:25:28 PM PST by tubebender (She was only a whiskey maker, but I loved her still.)
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To: Will88

And whatever happened to the Cleveland Indians and the Washington Redskins? Or the Atlanta Braves?

About twenty years ago, led by Jane Fonda, they tried to ban the Tomahawk Chop gesture and the waving of foam rubber tomahawks that were in fact made by a local Indian nation whose chief showed up and raised holy h***.

Don’t forget to look up the long twilight struggle of the PC fanatics at Dartmouth University to outlaw the Dartmouth Indian mascot, a fearsome character who during hockey games skated onto the ice in full warpaint & feathers and gave the faculty feminists a screaming case of the vapors. The feminazis retaliated by having the offending Indian expelled though IIRC several wealthy benefactors threatened to cut off the school without a dime and the administration folded up like an accordion and readmitted the student.

Nothing’s changed in four decades. The lefty cr@p just goes on. Let Indians be Americans and I have yet to meet an Indian who objects to being referred to as one but it helps to call one by his/her tribal name only make sure you got the right tribe when you do.


50 posted on 11/14/2011 7:39:51 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: SJackson; All

This is a perfect place for me to ask the question about how many of you know that there was a VP of the United States who was a good portion Indian. Do any of you know who he was and when he served?

I didn’t know myself until I looked up another topic, and it was mentioned. I know I didn’t learn about it in school, and I’ll bet it isn’t taught today. I’ll wait about 15 minutes and post the answer. He carried the blood of 3 tribes. One of them was the Potowatomie.


51 posted on 11/14/2011 7:56:25 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: tubebender; NativeSon; crazyhorse691; familyop; elcid1970; RoosterRedux; mnehring

See #51 for my challenge.


52 posted on 11/14/2011 8:06:41 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Charles Curtis (January 25, 1860 – February 8, 1936) was a United States Representative, a longtime United States Senator from Kansas later chosen as Senate Majority Leader by his Republican colleagues, and the 31st Vice President of the United States (1929-1933). He was the first person with significant acknowledged Native American ancestry and the first person with significant acknowledged non-European ancestry to reach either of the two highest offices in the United States government’s executive branch. His maternal ancestry was three-quarters’ Native American, of ethnic Kaw, Osage and Pottawatomie ancestry[1]. Curtis spent years of childhood living with his maternal grandparents on their Kaw reservation.


53 posted on 11/14/2011 8:09:21 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: SJackson

Are you sure this isn’t a Sean Hannity article?

“Indians, why do you hate America?”


54 posted on 11/14/2011 8:18:52 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
If you go to a real pow-wow in Indian Country, you will see the procession led in by Indian Veterans proudly carrying the American Flag.

True, and not only in what is usually thought of as Indian country. On 22 October 2011 my wife and I attended the American Indian festival at Patuxent River Park in Upper Marlboro, Maryland. We are not American Indians. The procession was led into the circle by American Indian veterans proudly carrying the American flag. Later in the proceedings, ALL American veterans were invited into the circle, led around the circle twice, individually asked to give their name, branch and years of service, and then publically thanked for their service. It was a moving experience.

55 posted on 11/14/2011 8:19:59 PM PST by zot
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To: Billthedrill
They don’t hate America, they are America. Well said.
56 posted on 11/14/2011 8:21:27 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Congratulations! Did you already know that, or did you google it? I certainly didn't learn this in school.

Your post didn't mention, however, who the President was who chose Mr. Curtis as his VP. Herbert Hoover, that's who. And Mr. Curtis was a Republican.

Kaw,Osage, Potawatomie.

I was fascinated to learn this.

57 posted on 11/14/2011 8:22:45 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: DUMBGRUNT; afraidfortherepublic; tubebender; NativeSon; crazyhorse691; familyop; elcid1970; ...

BTW, I have no Indian ancestry, but I do have a long held respect for the Indian tribes.

My grandmother was a missionary to the Choctaw Reservation in the late 1890s. She went there right after college to teach the cchildren music. She didn’t stay long, however, because her fiance came from Missouri to marry her. They were married on the Choctaw Reservation in Indian Territory because Oklahoma wasn’t even a state yet.

My oldest daughter borrowed her great grandmother’s hand made wedding slip to wear under her wedding gown when she was married in 1985. Many brides in my family wore that slip at their own weddings.


58 posted on 11/14/2011 8:32:09 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There are several active Tribes here in Humboldt County. Yurok, Hoopa, Karok and Wiyot to name just 4.


59 posted on 11/14/2011 8:52:12 PM PST by tubebender (She was only a whiskey maker, but I loved her still.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; DUMBGRUNT
I forgot to post a picture of VP Curtis, a very handsome man.


60 posted on 11/14/2011 8:57:16 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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