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US forces had orders to target Indian Army in 1971
The Times of India ^ | Nov 6, 2011, 04.17AM IST | Josy Joseph

Posted on 11/11/2011 11:20:49 AM PST by ravager

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1 posted on 11/11/2011 11:20:50 AM PST by ravager
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The past 60 years the USA has had this strange history of enabling corrupt Muslim States, where the result also NEVER turns out as we hope or intend.

the reasons for such interventionas are always different, but the result is always the same.


2 posted on 11/11/2011 11:29:12 AM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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I remember those days! East Pakistan revolted against West Pakistan’s authority. The fight was brutal with mass murders taking place.

India, got arms from Russia, Pakistan got arms from the US.

India then invades East Pakistan to help drive out the West Pakistanis. Due to upsetting the ballance of power in the area,the US sided with West Pakistan.

Our local paper, Tulsa Tribune or World had photos of tied civilians being bayonetted by the Indian troops. there was also a photo of an Indian soldier stomping to death a teen who tried to protect a family member. One letter to the editor called these photos “Pornography”.

West Pakistan is driven from the east and Banglidesh (Republic of Bengal) is formed. As one letter to the editor put it, “The world now has another beggar nation”.

My how things have changed in 40 years. The US and Pakistan are at loggerheads, and India is now our friend.


3 posted on 11/11/2011 11:33:28 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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It is worth keeping in mind that, at that time, India was practically a client state of the USSR despite their claims of being “non-aligned.” That’s why they still have piles of Soviet and Russian hardware.

And liberation worked out soooooo well for Bangladesh didn’t it?


4 posted on 11/11/2011 11:36:30 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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The past 60 years the USA has had this strange history of enabling corrupt Muslim States,

From 1945-1991, it was a single-minded mission: Anything to oppose the USSR. Since then, it's called "follow the money."

5 posted on 11/11/2011 11:39:27 AM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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The past 60 years the USA has had this strange history of enabling corrupt Muslim States, where the result also NEVER turns out as we hope or intend. the reasons for such interventionas are always different, but the result is always the same.

There is a story about Kissinger calling all of the department heads at State into his office. He had a globe on his desk and asked each one to point out his country. The guy that had the China desk pointed to China, The guy with the Yemen Desk pointed to Yemen. The same with all the other countries. Kissinger told them they were all wrong, pointed to the US and said "That is your country and you had better not forget it!"

6 posted on 11/11/2011 11:40:01 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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Other than events with Israel-Could someone list the battles/wars/events where the US was on the side of a majority non-muslim nation vs a muslim one? Not saying there weren’t any, just curious as to which ones they were.


7 posted on 11/11/2011 11:43:51 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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“India, got arms from Russia, Pakistan got arms from the US.”

India didnt invade Pakistan but provided covert support the the Mukhti Bahini freedom fighters of Bangladesh. Pakistan initates the war by bombing Indian air bases in Western sectors.

“World had photos of tied civilians being bayonetted by the Indian troops. there was also a photo of an Indian soldier stomping to death a teen who tried to protect a family member.”

Nonsense. Pakistan army massacred 3 million Bengalis on the Eastern front in one of the world's worst post WWII genocide. Henry Kissinger and Nixon were arming and supporting Gen Yahya Khan and Gen Tikka Khan in their genocide of Bengalis.

““The world now has another beggar nation”.”

Even with poverty Bangladesh is a million times better then Pakistan of today.

8 posted on 11/11/2011 11:45:22 AM PST by ravager
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It was a cold war thing. The Sov’s and India were allies. The U.S. and Pakistan were allies. The groundwork was then being laid for Nixon's visit to China and China dropping out of the Soviet orbit. Muslim extremism and salafism were way in the future.
9 posted on 11/11/2011 11:45:39 AM PST by colorado tanker
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“And liberation worked out soooooo well for Bangladesh didn’t it?”

It actually did. They are doing WAY better then Pakistan.

“India was practically a client state of the USSR despite their claims of being “non-aligned.” “

Consider this a good thing that common sense prevailed on US side and they didn't attack India. In that picture you see above, it may well have been an American general signing the instrument of surrender and defeat along with the Pakistani.

10 posted on 11/11/2011 11:49:46 AM PST by ravager
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It only makes sense to get the world’s oldest democracy and the world’s largest democracy to work together.

And speaking of women leaders, Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher & Golda Meir were all tough as nails.


11 posted on 11/11/2011 11:51:10 AM PST by federal__reserve (Dr. Paul Volcker, the best Chairman of federal Reserve in half a century.)
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“Our local paper, Tulsa Tribune or World had photos of tied civilians being bayonetted by the Indian troops. there was also a photo of an Indian soldier stomping to death a teen who tried to protect a family member. One letter to the editor called these photos “Pornography”.”

You had morons working at your local newspaper. The pictures you saw were of Pakistani troops.

12 posted on 11/11/2011 11:54:52 AM PST by ravager
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India did really well in that war after getting its butt handed to it by Pakistan the first time around. They re-organized and retrained then whipped Pakistan mercilessly. I don’t think an attack on India would have turned out that well for us. I’m glad we didn’t do it.
I’m also glad to hear that I’m wrong about Bangladesh. Its nice when something like that works out.


13 posted on 11/11/2011 11:55:10 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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You remember seeing them! Great! Thanks for the correction!


14 posted on 11/11/2011 12:02:55 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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And liberation worked out soooooo well for Bangladesh didn’t it?

Do you think they'd be better off still under Pakistani control? Their grievances were real, and when they tried to make their case, the Pakistanis came down on them like a ton of bricks. The estimates of Bangladeshis massacred before India intervened run to the millions.

15 posted on 11/11/2011 12:07:23 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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“India did really well in that war after getting its butt handed to it by Pakistan the first time around.”

Nope, that never happened either. Pakistan had a slight edge in the air warfare but it still got it's ass whooped on the ground.....but nothing like 1971. Pakistan army was 700,000 strong and it took only 18 days for them to collapse against India.

“I’m also glad to hear that I’m wrong about Bangladesh. Its nice when something like that works out.”

As poor as Bangladesh is, its still not a terrorist infested nest or a WMD producing shit-hole. Any Bangladeshi Muslim will tell you how grateful they are to India and how the separation from Pakistan was the best thing that ever happened to them.

16 posted on 11/11/2011 12:13:02 PM PST by ravager
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At the time India was firmly and squarely on the side of the USSR. India made a point of antagonizing the US whenever and however it could. The US sided with Pakistan as a bulwark against the Soviet influence, much the same as we sided with the Persians, to keep the Soviets out of the Middle East.
17 posted on 11/11/2011 12:20:56 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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“India did really well in that war after getting its butt handed to it by Pakistan the first time around.”

The first war between India and Pakistan was in 1948. India and Pakistan scrambled for Kashmir. India ended up with 2/3 of Kashmir and Pakistan got less then a quarter of Kashmir.

In the second war in 1965, Pakistan was far better equipped and well prepared. The still lost the war. India managed to occupy some valuable real estate on Western front. Pakistanis even agreed to Soviet mediation at Tashkent something they would have never agreed to if they had won.

The third war 1971 was complete defeat for Pakistan. They lost more then 2/3 of their military strength and half their country.


18 posted on 11/11/2011 12:23:50 PM PST by ravager
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The events of 1971 Pakistan army genocide in East Pakistan (Bangladesh) has been extensively researched and documented by media sources from around the world. The information is all out there.


19 posted on 11/11/2011 12:26:12 PM PST by ravager
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Thank you!


20 posted on 11/11/2011 12:36:04 PM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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