Posted on 11/09/2011 1:32:05 PM PST by Southnsoul
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You forgot the question mark!
In the South, people talk about having to “kiss the ring” of locals who think they are pretty special fish in their small little fish bowls. Take New Orleans, for example, where you have Mardi Gras and King and Queen of Carnival... New Orleans is a small town (under 1 million), but the “Kings” and “Queens” of these parades have huge egos. If someone doesn’t win a contract or get the nod for their daughter to be the Queen in a certain parade, they might say it was because that company or that person “didn’t kiss the ring” of the right person.
So for Cain to call Pelosi a Princess, it’s not really any different than saying “The Republicans didn’t kiss Pelosi’s ring.”
It means what it means, to people from the South. But people from the North aren’t going to understand it. And if Pelosi was a man in that position, and if Cain had said “Prince Pelosi,” would Cain be given a hard time?
He was commenting on Pelosi thinking of HERSELF as Royalty — He wasn’t being degrading to women.
DEAD WRONG!
First choice: Judge Andrew Napolitano.
I don’t understand why you think Romney would take off under any circumstances.
He hasn’t and I doubt he will.
Cain may well ride this first wave of the Dem smear campaign out and be stronger than ever.
If not, Gingrich is coming on strong.
I don’t think it’s Newt’s personal life that is holding him back, even though some do hold it against him. (And I have to admit, I’m not sure I’d like Calista as First Lady!)
The fact is that Newt has always had a way of shooting himself (and, therefore, his base) in the foot at the most inopportune times and in ridiculous ways.
This goes all the way back to an incident where he was whining about, IIRC, not being allowed to use the first door when he rode on Air Force One with President Clinton, to endorsing Dede in NY without any seeming understanding of the Tea Party zeitgeist, to beginning even this campaign with the disasterous interview that was what put him in the toilet this time: calling Paul Ryan’s budget “right-wing social engineering” and making some erudite, but ultimately politcally stupid ramblings on the Obamacare mandate.
Newt has not come by his understanding of the Tea Party movement naturally. He had to work at it, study it, like he does most things. Underneath, he’s still the guy who was shaped by his political experience 20 years ago, and that old-school wonkiness/”bipartisan” garbage slips out now and then.
He’s still great and I’d vote for him for President if he were the nominee.
But I’d worry as much about Newt’s experience in politics getting him off track as I’d worry about Cain’s inexperience in politics tripping him up.
Together, I think Cain and Newt would be a formidable ticket and a great leadership team.
But I think Newt may be better as the VP in that scenario. Although he sure can toss the red meat, he is not naturally inspirational. Cain is.
Newt understands the Tea Party as something he has studied and agrees with and tries to apply. Cain was Tea Party before there was a Tea Party movement.
Newt is the frumpy, but lovable professor. Cain is the motivating, aspirational CEO.
This could be good!
Im starting to lean Newt moreso than anyone else. He always demolishes the media and the libtard talking points, and he said he would be tough on china.
If you vote for Cain, I bet you’ll get Newt too (as VP).
That’s a good deal.
vekzen: I’m 55 and have exactly the same thought. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a candidate with such an in-depth knowledge of issues and a broad understanding of the historical moment than Newt.
It's unsettling how few people here on FR agree with this blindingly obvious assessment. So much easier to toss a drive-by Pelosi couch pic, than to make a case against Gingrich on the merits.
I'm sold. Gingrich it is.
"You go first Newt!"
He teaches the public about every aspect of government in layman termonology.
Do you seriously believe that? He "teaches the public." "In every aspect of government." Seriously? I have yet to detect any depth in candidate Cain, or much command of basic political knowledge, for that matter. It's just baffling to me how much pixie dust people can cram into their eyes.
I loved that “You go first Newt!” moment in the Cain - Gingrich style debate.
Cain the powerful businessman. Gingrich the powerful former Speaker, sitting down like a couple co-workers at lunch.
Gingrich the wonk. Cain the ceo. The question was a beltway policy question of some sort - I’m not recalling exactly what the question was, but it was actually funny as all get out, watching Cain think about the inside baseball question which was asked, considering the guy sitting next to him is the poster-wonk of beltway policy questions.
Cain smiled, and deferred to Gingrich’s very formidable grasp, while he thought about what he was going to say.
That was the second best moment of the debate.
The best, was when Cain asked Newt to describe, when he’s Cain’s VP, what he thought Cain should assign him to do.
(he didn’t actually use those specifics, but it was clear enough to be the funniest debate moment I’ve seen)
Back to your “You go first Newt” reference:
You as a partisan are trying to paint the moment between two intelligent men respectfully debating as some sort of weakness in Cain.
I saw it as masterful.
One of us is wrong.
Newt rocked on the student loan answer. . . said what had to be said to the utter amazement of the questioner and the other lib moderators . imagine . . . having to actually work to pay for your own college! I did and so did many others before the age of the spoiled entitlement era.
My guess is Perry will try to fight it out as best he can. He always has the (many) Obama gaffes to retaliate with. It’s going to be near impossible in any case.
Oh for sure. Because I don’t like Cain, I’m partisan. Because you do, you’re not. Got it.
He punted an either-or question: defined benefit plan or premium support? He rubbed his hands, looked heavenward, wiped his mouth, and said “A defined..........................................................You go first Newt!”
Masterful! Got it.
Great post and understanding.
Cain is demonstrating his CEO skills of listening to several opposing arguments and making the executive decision of how to proceed.
He is not accustomed to, nor comfortable with, the ‘bash & burn’ political process. He is, however, comfortable with his own principles, character and American life experience.
He shows respect for others’ opinions, points of view and expertise - which are Presidential qualities. He has no ego - how refreshing!!
Newt is a national treasure - and having been out of the Washington DC maelstrom of elected office - IMHO - he has found his soul and is eager to redeem his conservative principles. Being Speaker - he had to compromise. Being POTUS or VP - he could represent the people more effectively.
JMHO Newt/Cain or Cain/Newt - the dream team.
I think the kinship between Gingrich and Cain goes far beyond just their common views.
What is happening real time, IMHO could fuse the two into a formidable political force for turning back the left in America. Gingrich was perhaps the very first real high visibility target of the communist “Alinsky” crap.
The left sat down. Actually decided to take down Gingrich, and set out to do so. Unfortunately at the time, such a thing was simply not something people even considered as possible.
At the time, it was thought “if there is smoke, there is fire”. Nobody realized Newt was being specifically targeted by the left for destruction, and nobody stood up for him. He, just as Cain is now, was SMEARED.
Liberals are attempting to repeat, that “personal destruction” process now, for everything. It’s all they’ve got.
What has changed, is that Americans are starting to catch on. The effectiveness of mudslinging, is diminishing.
The left has become like a party of Alinsky crack-heads. Long ago they ran out of good ideas, but now they’ve really only got nastiness left.
So they get nastier, and nastier. It’s their drug.
Cain is standing up and pushing back. Something Gingrich in retrospect, should have done.
Cain is living out before us, what Gingrich went through, and this time, the left is going to lose.
Cain / Gingrich will then become a force to be reckoned with.
No one will be discussing the wall paper in the debate room either, because much like the wall paper, Paul doesn’t matter.
I agree totally with your statements, the reason Romney has done so well in many of the debates (not this one) is because he wasn’t under attack, when the focus shifts to him he wilts in the glare, you could see the stress in his eyes last night, and his internal polling must be showing him how bad things are getting for him.
bye bye mitt!
If Romney is the candidate, Obama will come out and thank Mittens for being the “godfather of Obamacare” and that’ll be the end of him.
Making conservatives not care enough to vote for Mittens will be very easy. The RINOs just didn’t learn from McCain.
” I don’t understand why you think Romney would take off under any circumstances.
Cain may well ride this first wave of the Dem smear campaign out and be stronger than ever. If not, Gingrich is coming on strong. “ <<<
I hope you’re right. I’ve been assigned to the job in the worry room. This just seems to be Romney’s first, last chance to bring those poll numbers up before the primary contests, now, while Cain has a chink in his armor and, Rick has all but knocked himself out, and Gingrich is in need of money.
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