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Child sex charges, possible cover-up rock Penn St
AP/Yahoo ^ | 11/6/11 | GENARO C. ARMAS and MARK SCOLFORO

Posted on 11/06/2011 4:04:13 AM PST by markomalley

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To: MrEdd

Just out of curiosity, and NOT that I recommend it, but have you read the grand jury report?


21 posted on 11/06/2011 5:49:53 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: mewzilla

Just the Wallstreet Journal story late last night.


23 posted on 11/06/2011 5:55:35 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Paterno only had a second hand accusation to go on. He wasn’t a witness. He passed what he had heard up the chain of authority to the people who are supposed to look into things like this.

"Hey Coach Paterno, I saw Coach Sandusky 'subjecting a ten-year-old boy to anal sex in the shower'."

Paterno reported "that the graduate student had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."

Well, a) one of those things is not like the other; b) if you heard that your employee was literally raping a ten-year-old boy would you pass that off as "fondling?"; c) why didn't JoePa ask what the hell a grown-ass man is doing in the showers with a young boy in the FIRST place...

Like, if I heard this from someone under me, I'd be taking me, AND him, AND Coach Sandusky, AND the athletic director, at the very least, and we'd have a sit-down with the cops and get to the bottom of this.

Nah, it's probably nothing, I'll just kick it up the chain of command, it'll work itself out
24 posted on 11/06/2011 5:55:41 AM PST by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: halfright

The only reason JoePa is not charged is because of his legendary status he was not given as much of an opportunity to perjure himself. This is sick sick stuff. JoePa’s friend was raping children in his shower and he is supposed to follow the “chain of command”? Is that what you would do?

Why did JoePa allow this man on campus and around children after a member of his staff WITNESSED anal rape of a child in his locker room showers? He made no attempt to stop it after multiple assaults. One phone call from JoePa is all it would have taken

You need stop stop being in denial and defending JoePa. It’s only going to get worse once more facts come out.


25 posted on 11/06/2011 5:58:14 AM PST by lodi90
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

“My favorite part is how the original DA just up and vanished in 2005.”

Ray Gricar, just declared legally dead by the courts....
A VERY big deal that got swept under the rugs, real quick.


26 posted on 11/06/2011 6:01:52 AM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

Paterno immediately reported the incident to Curley (the AD) and Schultz (the head of University Police, who are ‘real’ cops). Is the complaint now that he didn’t report it to the ‘right’ police? There was a lengthy grand jury investigation and they didn’t find Paterno at fault for anything. I’m not sure what else you need. The information available is quite detailed.

For the record I do not care for Paterno. While his wife is cheerful and pleasant, Paterno is unfriendly, bitter, and angry. He doesn’t even believe he needs to stop at stop signs (though I can now say that I flipped off and gave a big FU to him). That said, from the available information I believe Joe did the right thing.


27 posted on 11/06/2011 6:04:05 AM PST by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: MrEdd

FWIW, my opinion of Paterno did a 180 after I read the grand jury report.


28 posted on 11/06/2011 6:05:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: flintsilver7
Paterno immediately reported the incident to Curley (the AD) and Schultz (the head of University Police, who are ‘real’ cops). Is the complaint now that he didn’t report it to the ‘right’ police?

Yeah, actually, that is my complaint. He reported it to the very people with a significant financial stake in keeping it under wraps.
29 posted on 11/06/2011 6:08:05 AM PST by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: MrEdd

“Paterno only had a second hand accusation to go on. He wasn’t a witness.”

This was the second documented PUBLIC accusation of child sex assault that JoePa kicked upstairs and did not follow up on. How much more do we need to know? How much more don’t we know?

Why did JoePa allow this perp around children and young men after multiple accusations of sex assault? No falsely accused man showers again with young boys. He is guilty. JoePa & everyone else at PSU knew that.

The only logically explanation to the inaction is that everyone at Penn State was in CYA mode. Meanwhile, more boys were being assaulted for years.


30 posted on 11/06/2011 6:08:38 AM PST by lodi90
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

Point.

Hadn’t read the grand jury report that Paterno was given so much detail and then downplayed the act.

His legacy will be something different now.


31 posted on 11/06/2011 6:09:08 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: markomalley

The Second Mile is apparently a Catholic youth organization.

http://www.manta.com/c/mmg82tq/second-mile

This behavior is regarded as being learned, ie the molestors were themselves molested as a child.

Quite the horrid price to pay for having been “tolerant” in the past. The damage appears to have spread like a cancer. Some of these boys will be warped for life and will end up perpetuating the cycle.


32 posted on 11/06/2011 6:20:45 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: flintsilver7
Paterno immediately reported the incident to Curley (the AD) and Schultz (the head of University Police, who are ‘real’ cops).

This.

I am not a Paterno fan either, but the idea he did not report this incident to the Police is flat out wrong. I work for a major University, and if I had a report that something like this had happened, I absolutely would take it to the Chief of Police for our campus. From there, I would trust him to pass it on to higher authorities if the situation warranted it.

That said, WTF was Paterno doing letting the guy back on campus to use his facilities after this occurred?

33 posted on 11/06/2011 6:21:08 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: comebacknewt

Just curious, and not passing judgement. But why wouldn’t you call the real police? After all of the stories we hear about cover ups of this stuff, would you trust the “internal” process.


34 posted on 11/06/2011 6:23:49 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
The Second Mile is apparently a Catholic youth organization.

No it's not.

You referenced its entry in "Manta.com", which says:

Second Mile in Camp Hill, PA is a private company categorized under Youth Organizations. Our records show it was established in 1977 and incorporated in Pennsylvania. Register for free to see additional information such as annual revenue and employment figures. Companies like Second Mile usually offer: Youth Soccer Organizations, Youth Development Organizations, Catholic Youth Organizations, Youth Football Organizations and La Costa Youth Organization.

Here is their website.

If you take a look at their board of directors (listed on the website), you will see no clergy members of any denomination. Nor will you see any affiliation with any religious organization.

The reason "manta" lists "Catholic Youth Organizations" is because CYO's serve similar purposes to this organization, not that there is any affiliation.

35 posted on 11/06/2011 6:28:33 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Another disgusting homo caught in the act of their sick obsession. IN time, all of the acts of a homo will be couched in their rights as a minority. Who would ever have thought they would be allowed marital status and to adopt same-sex children—just like ancient Rome and the catamites.


36 posted on 11/06/2011 6:28:57 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Scoutmaster
From yesterday's longer story, I believe Joe Paterno was told by the graduate assistant who witnessed the assault by Sandusky.

I do not unterstand why the graduate student who witnessed the assault did not intervene.

I'm sorry, but if I see a man anally raping a child, I'm going to physically stop the act and take the child to the hospital. The coroner can mop up what's left.

37 posted on 11/06/2011 6:30:05 AM PST by Malacoda (CO(NH2)2 on OBAMA.)
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To: lodi90

Merely an extension of the homosexual lifestyle. See nambla.org. They marched openly in many “gay” pride parades.


38 posted on 11/06/2011 6:30:35 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Vermont Lt
Campus police are real police.

The Chief of Police on our campus was formerly the Chief of a major U.S. city before he took their early retirement and accepted our job. I am pretty sure all our officers were previously employed by other police departments.

I would have full confidence in them to handle the situation appropriately.

39 posted on 11/06/2011 6:30:42 AM PST by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: comebacknewt

Sorry...I did not read the entire thread before posting. Most schools I work with (I am involved with college athletics in several places.) do not have “real” police. But the state universities do have troopers on campus. My mistake.


40 posted on 11/06/2011 6:31:00 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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