Posted on 11/06/2011 1:18:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
...at least regarding the Republican base.
Perry was not a leader in Al Gore's primary run, he merely endorsed him. Al Gore was considered the conservative Democrat running in the 1988 presidential primary (pro-Life, family values, 2nd Amendment). Dukakus took the nomination and Perry washed his hands of the party and joined the GOP. Perry also voted both times for Ronald Reagan.
Note that Newt puts his Contract With America and Perry’s successful Governorship of Texas in the same sentence as examples.
I’m not pushing Newt but would vote for him if he were the nominee.
He’s most certainly not perfect.
Just like the others are not.
But he highlighted Gov. Perry’s record and wrote the forward to his book.
Before politics for the Presidency entered the picture...
I caught a moment...while channel surfing...at the Woodlands when Cain spoke of the need to truly put SS contributions in a lockbox. Well, Perry has been saying this in concert with his proposal to reform the system for younger workers who are victims of the Ponzi scheme.
But there’s no credit to Perry for that?
But if you’re Cain and you say it at the Woodlands with Newt there, then.....
Really.
I have my problems with Perry (due to what I perceive to be electability issues), and after initially supporting him I have dropped off the Perry bandwagon, but all talk of him not being a conservative is total and absolute BS and I really resent the fact that his actual record is so willfully distorted by some other posters here in FR.
As for you, CW, I have always respected you as a poster and read most of the threads you post, even though I no longer plan on voting for Perry in the primary.
I will, of course, vote for him and work for him in the general election in the off chance (remote in my opinion) that he wins the primary.
Because that would be totally false and his record and statements prove it. Perry opposes amnesty but you oppose Perry so you lie about his positions.
.."“You can put a program into place in which these individuals can be identified, and work visas in which they can move back and forth between their countries but not to become United States citizens,” Perry said. “And I think that’s where McCain, that’s where Romney, that’s where even Bush went wrong when they talked about the issue that, ‘we’re going to give amnesty to these individuals,’ and people just said, ‘no, we’re not.’”.. Source
I’m a little bit cautious about converts, it’s hard for me to imagine ever being a democrat.You left off your sarcasm tag. Either that, or you forgot to plug in your brain.
Newt and Cain are in favor of a guest worker program, too.
Exactly.
Dittos on our divide but also on our goals samtheman.
The “was a Democrat” won’t fly anymore, since Cain voted for Clinton in 1992, and his wife still votes Democrat.
“The “was a Democrat” won’t fly anymore, since Cain voted for Clinton in 1992, and his wife still votes Democrat.”
I agree that his wife votes Democrat, and if that’s what you Perry people are left grabbing at, it’s pretty PATHETIC.
As to Cain, were you in the booth with him in 1992? The last time I check we still had secret ballots.
Two points:
Bob L is even against allowing them to legally work here.
Then, he mistates Perry’s plan to allow them to legally work here but never to grant them amnesty/citizenship, by using the terms “legalizing 10,000,000 of them”.
When most people see those words they think it does mean amnesty and citizenship.
Thanks for the call out on that lie.
But let us recall, it was Reagan who did that, not Perry.
In addition, Perry’s plan is in concert with SECURING THE BORDER.
Herman Cain got off the electrified fence horse and got on the Rick Perry BORDER SECURITY PLAN horse.
Military on the border, greatly increased Border Patrol and in concert with help from Texas Ranger border strike force, drones and other high tech assets, strategic fencing where it has been shown to work which is primarily in urban areas...
[since Cain voted for Clinton in 1992, and his wife still votes Democrat.]
Good to know. Thanks.
Meanwhile — Quack, Waddle...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2793300/posts?page=706#706
...CONSERVATIVE.
and his wife still votes Democrat
Curious where did you find that tidbit?
Not only that but Perry has made it crystal clear that SEALING the border will be NUMBER ONE! He is the only candidate who will make this happen.
“Bob L is even against allowing them to legally work here.
Then, he mistates Perry’s plan to allow them to legally work here but never to grant them amnesty/citizenship, by using the terms “legalizing 10,000,000 of them”.
When most people see those words they think it does mean amnesty and citizenship.”
I think that I stated ACCURATELY what Perry’s plan is here. What I didn’t bother to state is that if you have 12,000,000 guest workers here, all it takes is a future president and Congress to MAKE them citizens. Or simply a COURT RULING. Perry will not be dictator for life...and frankly, I don’t think he has the ‘heart’ to keep them as non-voting residents (but that’s my opinion).
The bottom line is that Perry wants them to stay and be happy, while CONSERVATIVES want them to GO BACK HOME - so that we will not be subjected to having another 10,000,000 DEMOCRATS (if the above happens), effectively ending Republican power in this country for generations.
bullypulpit posted a story about it, on another thread, not on a seperate thread. I don’t recall which thread it was. I understood she is a Democrat, but then, Herman Cain was a Democrat after Perry quit being one.
I actually don’t think that’s very relevant...some Republican wives are very, very RINO in some of their politics, much more so than even their husbands. I posted that at the time and so did TitansAFC.
BobL, Cain told people in 1993 that he voted for Clinton. The only reason this came up is that the topic of this thread is “turned Republican.”
http://missouri-news.org/midwest-news/nebraska/cain-voted-for-bill-clinton/10262
http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-cain/2011/11/02/report-cain-voted-clinton
As to Gloria:
She voted in the Democrat primary in 2008.
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Cain-Wife-Votes-Democrat/2011/11/04/id/416931
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