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Italian cold fusion machine passes another test
MSNBC ^ | 11/3/2011 | Natalie Wolchover

Posted on 11/03/2011 4:05:36 PM PDT by PapaBear3625

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To: D-fendr

Rossi said he tried to replicate Fleischmann and Pons and no workee.
***Evidence, please.


61 posted on 11/03/2011 10:17:38 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: PapaBear3625

“...an unexplained reaction...”

Stopped reading right there. Should have stopped at “MSNBC.”


62 posted on 11/03/2011 10:23:28 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: William Tell

If they are scamming, it will get out soon enough.

Most of the world is still calling this a lie.

Forbes and MSNBC have now reported it. The set-up is getting higher, waiting for a fall.


63 posted on 11/03/2011 10:24:07 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: chessplayer

It’s a fine line to walk between being gullible and a close minded flat earther. A lot of modern scientists are flat earthers. They just suck off the genius of others and name themselves wonderful by association of job title.

The flat earthers are the ones who talk about how “smart” they are and how “stupid” everyone else is. Really smart scientists just are.


64 posted on 11/03/2011 10:31:21 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Kevmo

“How much nickel gets converted to copper per kwh of heat ? ***A whole bunch. “

Well, that’s not good. Nickel is currently about $20/kg. So if it takes more than a gram of nickel to generate a kwh of heat, then that would be a pretty expensive way to generate electricity.


65 posted on 11/03/2011 10:39:40 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Kevmo

Not much time now. I’ll tell what I remember. A short while back a contrarian view from “New Energy” ? was posted here on FR. In the article is text and video made by the author including an interview with Rossi.

Rossi talks about starting out experiments, first using F/P. It’s in that interview.

Should be easy to track here on FR... lemme know if I need to run it down.

j


66 posted on 11/03/2011 10:42:29 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Kellis91789

I have heard that it is 100x less expensive than oil but I would have to pursue the actual facts if it became important.


67 posted on 11/03/2011 11:25:01 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: D-fendr

please track it down

it could prove significant, whether pro or con...


68 posted on 11/03/2011 11:26:38 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kellis91789

OOPs, not much nickel gets converted at all... What I meant to say was that a WHOLE BUNCH of energy results from the conversion, but the amount of nickel converted is actually quite small. E=MC^2, there is very little mass for a bunch of energy.


69 posted on 11/03/2011 11:29:31 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
Kevmo said: "And yet, the amount of energy available from a gallon of seawater is more than 100 times that of a gallon of oil."

Could you provide some detail for that claim? Since the energy that was released when the hydrogen and oxygen formed the water is no longer present, it doesn't seem like you could be referring to chemical energy.

70 posted on 11/03/2011 11:34:46 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Titus-Maximus
This will change the balance of power, it will destroy petro-states, it can change industries over night.

People make millions on the homeopathic scam and millions buy those balance bracelets. Go figure. Rossi, the three-time scammer is out for his share of your money!

71 posted on 11/03/2011 11:35:59 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Kevmo
The device runs on hydrogen gas rather than seawater

Please give the equations for the reactions. Thank you.

72 posted on 11/03/2011 11:37:42 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: William Tell

It’s basically everywhere.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?rlz=1T4ACAW_en___US329&hl=en&q=cache:XQBaW5mfTFgJ:http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html+%22amount+of+energy%22+%22gallon+of+seawater%22+oil+lenr&ct=clnk

LESSON #1: COLD FUSION IS IMPORTANT
Dr. Eugene Mallove: “One important implication of cold fusion is that there are, at least, 300 gallons of gasoline equivalent in every gallon of ordinary water. If you take the heavy hydrogen contained in one gallon of water, normal water that you drink, or get at the pond or the lake or the ocean, and fuse that heavy hydrogen into helium, which is what is happening in cold fusion.
This gives you heat, and that amount of heat is the equivalent of 300 gallons of gasoline. That means that in only one cubic kilometer of ocean, we have the energy equivalent of the entire known oil reserves on Earth. And that means total energy independence from any localized supply of oil plus the environmental benefit of not producing CO2 and other noxious pollutants.


73 posted on 11/03/2011 11:39:11 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: NewinTexsas

Perhaps you forget that I gave up on you a couple of threads ago when you went off the deep end.

Feel free to post weird stuff about google results with Kevmo and homeopathy.
T4BTT


74 posted on 11/03/2011 11:40:53 PM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
Kevmo said: "It’s basically everywhere."

I see. It didn't occur to me that you were comparing the chemical energy available from a gallon of oil through combustion in air, with the energy available through various and unspecified nuclear processes using a gallon of sea water.

It sounded too much like the claims of people who have attempted to sell carburetors that would allow cars to run on water instead of gas.

75 posted on 11/03/2011 11:48:33 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: bunkerhill7
Thank you!

Seagull guano is real and valuable!

76 posted on 11/03/2011 11:51:43 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: William Tell

Keep in mind that Rossi’s ecat isn’t fusing deuterium (from heavy water) into helium.


77 posted on 11/03/2011 11:52:32 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: William Tell

If this whole thing turns out to be a chemical reaction then all the better. No NRC oversight. The fuel would be... hydrogen & Nickel? The waste products are... heat & helium & copper, or something like that? What exactly is the downside to calling this a chemical reaction?


78 posted on 11/04/2011 12:11:15 AM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: William Tell

people who have attempted to sell carburetors that would allow cars to run on water instead of gas.
***Well, best of luck with that. Not sure what your point was, though.


79 posted on 11/04/2011 12:13:32 AM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
Kevmo said: "Not sure what your point was, though."

My point was that I didn't understand your statement because I didn't see the context of comparing chemical reactions for one material with nuclear reactions of another material.

Surely we can both agree that a gallon of oil contains a good deal of hydrogen that could be converted into helium, using whatever unspecified process that could be used on the hydrogen contained in the gallon of sea water.

It simply wasn't clear to me what you were getting at. Now I see it.

80 posted on 11/04/2011 12:21:29 AM PDT by William Tell
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