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Perry denies leaking sexual harassment allegations
Associated Press ^ | Nov. 2, 2011

Posted on 11/02/2011 8:23:04 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: RitaOK

Perry has drunk eyes and a drunk’s demeanor. I’m a self-made expert in this area. Not a darn thing wrong with Cain.


61 posted on 11/02/2011 9:59:36 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: bigbob

One of the big-money democrats was offering payments in Texas for any woman who would come forward with charges against Rick Perry. So you know they are looking.

And the media is clearly looking. People think a campaign did this to Cain? No reason. It’s fact — two women complained, a settlement was reached. People knew about the charges, and about the settlement. People whose names were on employment roles.

All the paper had to do was get a list of people who left the organization during Cain’s term, and go interview them. Someone was going to say something. It wasn’t a secret that only Cain knew.

Look at Perry. The media went so far as to question every aquantance of his FAMILY, in order to find someone who would say something bad. They found someone who mentioned a rock, and they were able to dig through records, find who owned the land, when the leases were, and who went to vist with the Perrys. They even found the rock and took a picture. That turned into a big smear on Rick Perry that was largely false (Cain of course attacked Perry for it, showing no class at all).

And that story was not “leaked” by another campaign. It was just hard work by the media looking to destroy any frontrunner threatening Romney. Cain is now a threat to Romney, so the media is going to question people who worked at his businesses.

You can be sure there will be stories about the people who were fired from Godfathers, and how it destroyed their lives. There will be ex-franchisers who picked up work from other chains who will talk about how much more successful they were when they got out from under Cain’s management.

How could you not expect this stuff? It’s standard media practice to go after conservatives. If you know you were accused of something and settled, you better be ready to answer it.

Remember back in 1980, the last weekend before the election? A story broke about a DUI involving a young George Bush. That nearly sunk his campaign. It would have been a non-story if Bush had simply brought it up the day after he secured the nomination. He knew the records existed. He should have assumed they would find out.


62 posted on 11/02/2011 10:02:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: bigbob

“back in 1980” should clearly say “back in 2000”. Sorry about that.


63 posted on 11/02/2011 10:02:38 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FreeReign

Wilson said he was present at AN incident. He said he never talked about it, and was speaking now just to point out that multiple people were at that particular incident and knew about it and could have talked about it.

I couldn’t figure out if he was talking about an incident with one of the two women accusers, or with the 3rd woman who was reported today. In any case, that is a new thing that came out, and it was not the source of the original story.


64 posted on 11/02/2011 10:05:53 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FreeReign

BTW, since Cain knows that there are a couple of people who are now working for Perry who have knowledge of what happened, is it really smart for him to launch false attacks on Perry? Isn’t that more likely to get those people to actually talk, if they know anything? Like Wilson?

Does that help Cain? Or Romney....


65 posted on 11/02/2011 10:07:07 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: txroadkill
I have few doubts that this story was leaked by either the Romney campaign or the Perry campaign. Like it or not, that's politics.

Yet, even with the story and the terrible way the Cain campaign has handled the response, I don't see any polls showing it has damaged him.

I don't think Cain is a great candidate. I don't think I would even call him a good candidate. But he remains the front-runner, probably due to the Republican electorates refusal to support either Romney or Perry.

I originally hadn't taken Cain too seriously as he is far from polished. But as events continue to unfold, I'm thinking more and more that the electorates disgust with typical politicians is driving Cain's popularity, giving him a Teflon candidate status.

If he were to actually win the nomination, could he actually beat Obama? I'm not convinced.....yet.

66 posted on 11/02/2011 10:07:50 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: smoothsailing

Did anyone expect him to say Yeah we did it?

I sure didn’t. Probably won’t ever know for sure who fed the story to politico but you can bet your boots on this! Had the alleged actor been a prominent democrat the only thing the story would have ever seen was the spike on the editor’s desk!


67 posted on 11/02/2011 10:10:52 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: RitaOK
but it sure as heck never got him tied up with a sexual harrassment scandal that cost anybody $35,000,

No sexual harassment has been established. Not yet, anyway. What we have is women who received severance packages and a lot of speculation about why.

You do realize, don't you, that a severance package of $35,000 indicates only one thing -- that *nothing* happened. That a disgruntled or unstable employee was causing trouble (like leveling false accusations of harassment or discrimination) and the organization saved itself hundreds of thousands of dollars in court fees by buying her off.

If there was really any sexual harassment, the women would have walked away with hundreds of thousands -- if not millions -- of dollars, and NRA would have dumped Cain immediately as a huge financial liability. But none of that happened....

68 posted on 11/02/2011 10:17:19 PM PDT by kevao
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I think that Wilson's account could be connected to this:
“Four people with contemporaneous knowledge of the encounter said it had taken place in the context of a work outing during which there had been heavy drinking — a hallmark, they said, of outings with an organization that represents the hospitality industry. They spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid being publicly drawn into the dispute, and declined to provide details of the encounter, saying they did not want to violate the privacy of the woman.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/02/us/politics/herman-cain-accuser-got-a-years-salary-in-severance-pay.html
69 posted on 11/02/2011 10:22:10 PM PDT by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Perry denied mandating Gardisil too, didn’t he?

NO, he did not. He said he made a mistake.


70 posted on 11/02/2011 10:37:06 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Perry bots are just as bad a Paulbots and Obamabots. They are coming out of the woodwork on this thread to attack Cain. And yet they want no fighting between candidates. But they probably are defensive after Perry tanked and people exposed him.

If now the “tea party” is infighting and the GOP is collapsing before our eyes. The democrat party is no political party worth leaving around to finish off America. I’m stunned at how quickly the republican party is collapsing.

Right now We’ve got Michele Bachmann attacking everyone but Romney. Cain getting framed by 2 or 3 women. Perry being accused of leaks. Rahm Emanuel behind selling the information to Perry. Rove attacking Cain on every appearance. And Palin having second thoughts about not running. Meanwhile we have loons trying to astro turfing Wall Street. And the tea party is not actively attacking Romney.


71 posted on 11/02/2011 10:40:47 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

Perry supporters are coming out of the “woodwork” because Herman Cain is smearing Perry YET AGAIN. Remind me why we’re supposed to shut up when Cain once again protects Romney but tosses out a loaded and thus far unsubstantiated charge. In an attempt to either deflect attention from the charges or take Perry down with him elevating Romney? You do know Romney is associated with the same organization right and yet not a word from Cain about it.

Cain lacks character and more importantly he lacks evidence of the charge. So either produce the evidence or shut the hell up and deal with the mess your own campaign created.


72 posted on 11/02/2011 10:47:50 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
First Cain goes after Perry, then Rahm who is next the Pope or maybe G.W. Bush.

Cain is disgusting pointing fingers with no proof. I just don't understand his pure hatred for Perry. Perry never did anything to him.

I was not for Cain before but after this pointing fingers at Perry after everything else he has said attacking Perry, pulling the race card and saying that about not supporting him and yet all the others if someone else won. Cain is working hard to be my enemy as much as Obama if he keeps this up. And other then VILE Romney ( I can't stand Romney) I hate to say that about a Republican ( Cain) but he is asking for it.

73 posted on 11/02/2011 10:54:17 PM PDT by Katarina (Rick Perry the Best man for President ! NEVER Romney! And no thank you Cain.)
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To: no dems

That “bizarre” speech in New Hampshire by Perry was a cut and paste job. People there said he was not drinking. It was a great speech by the way if you heard all of it. Could Herb be a drinker? I don’t know. Is he a womanizer? I don’t know.


74 posted on 11/02/2011 10:55:07 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: baysider

I agree it IS reckless and false.


75 posted on 11/02/2011 10:55:42 PM PDT by Katarina (Rick Perry the Best man for President ! NEVER Romney! And no thank you Cain.)
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To: RitaOK

Well said Rita.


76 posted on 11/02/2011 10:56:38 PM PDT by Katarina (Rick Perry the Best man for President ! NEVER Romney! And no thank you Cain.)
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To: RitaOK
According to the host of the event in N.H. where Perry spoke, Governor Perry had not had anything to drink except water. Those wanting to believe the worst of Perry should read the article here or watch the video: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/02/man-who-hosted-nh-event-says-rick-perry-was-sober-when-he-delivered-speech/

I have not decided how I will vote, but the Perry haters who are posting such hateful unsubstantiated comments have caused me to take a more thorough look at Perry's record, and I find much to agree with.

I think Mr. Cain's campaign manager is not doing him any favors. I thought it was bad judgment for Mr. Cain to say in September that 'he would be happy to serve on Romney's staff if he got the nomination, or he could serve with others, but he would never serve with Rick Perry.' I lost some respect for Mr. Cain at that time. I think he is a very likeable man, but from his answers to questions regarding foreign affairs, he is sorely lacking knowledge. Unfortunately, he is responsible for all the hullabaloo surrounding him now. Regardless if the allegations made against him are false, he knew they had been made, and he didn't tell the truth when POLITICO reported it. He has consistently altered his story, and to blame the Perry campaign without proof puts him on a par with the women who made accusations against him. As far as the public knows, his charges against Perry are "baseless".

77 posted on 11/02/2011 10:58:46 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: bossmechanic

I watched Hannity tonight and I believe Gov Perry will be our next POTUS.


78 posted on 11/02/2011 11:01:08 PM PDT by make no mistake
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To: kevao

” You do realize, don’t you, that a severance package of $35,000 indicates only one thing — that *nothing* happened. “ <<<<<

BWHAHAHAHA!!! RIIIGGGGHHHHT. Whatever you say. LOL!!! Gawwwwd. Hang in there.

Your razor like intellect ever consider what happened to the 72 hours Romney was the one under suspicion for the Cain story, with his own campaign connections????

What did you hear from ole Herb then? Crickits. Cain has been about two things: 1.) CAIN 2.) Destroying Perry
It has never been about the nomination, it’s been more about harrassing and abhoring Rick Perry. What’s that about? The Cain guy is getting weird on us. But, heck with three women out there talking, no wonder he had to take up radio. Who the heck would hire him and want to deal with him with either accusations with witnesses, or a cash settlement coming up with regularity? Toast. It’s coming. Toast.


79 posted on 11/02/2011 11:02:32 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: RitaOK

If you think someone who was truly sexually harassed is going to be bought off for a mere $35,000, you are delusional.


80 posted on 11/02/2011 11:10:49 PM PDT by kevao
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