The Conquest of the West

Human Events ^ | 10/18/2011 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[rmlew]

Just because Pat is wrong on alot of issues regarding foreign policy, doesn't mean you should ignore him here. His point about demographics of the West should no longer be controversial.

[rmlew]

I also suggest David Greenfield's The Colonization of the West

[Aetius]

Pat is right about this.

It’s a shame that not a single Republican running for President is calling for a reduction in immigration.

As for Europe; it seems almost hopeless.

[molson209]

and if Islam tries to take over the world the population will drop to 3 or 4 billion

[rmlew]

It’s a shame that not a single Republican running for President is calling for a reduction in immigration.
The media ostracized Thaddeus McCotter (including Fox News who declared him an uncandidate from the first minute, despite his being a regular commentator.) He had the best record. Michele Bachmann doesn't seem to have the IQ or common sense to differentiate herself from the rest of the pack based on he position of ending illegal immigration and reducing legal immigration. Seriously, note once in a debate did she say "I have teh highest ratings from anti-illegal immigration groups of anyone on this stage. Unlike the others here I have a consistent record in trying to end illegal immigration, and not just during primaries."
I say this as someone who donated to her campaign and has a shirt from it.

[rogue yam]

ping

[Billthedrill]

Mark Steyn has been beating this drum for years. It may yet turn out true, but I do gently submit that arguments that begin “If current trends continue” generally end up admitting later that they didn’t.

[Waywardson]

Sin has consequence.

The reason America needs 50 million illegals isn’t because we “just aren’t having enough babies”...

The ugly brutal truth is, we have purposefully exterminated 50 million unborn American babies.

While it is true that God uses the enemies of a people to judge His people, it is most often simple cause and effect rather than supernatural effects.

If we had not aborted 50 million since 1973, or before, by now, half of those would be married and having their own children and America would have 150 million more people.

Abortion is also the problem in Europe and Russia.

Abortion, not “having fewer babies”.

We should not sanitize the problem.

We can stop it at any time and in 20 years completely reverse it.

We have enough wealth to do what the other nations cannot.

If we choose to do so.

[munin]

If we choose to do so.

You are so right, I have been following somewhat the aftermath of the event in Oslo Norway on july 22
that man, Brevik tried to wake up the goverment about all the muslims emigrating to Norway and that they were in fact taking over instead of mixing into the local culture and that multicultureism wasen’t working, and what he has achived is the opposite, now anybody talking against mass emigration and multiculturism is beeig demonized, seems like most of the eurozone leaders missed the point altogether

[rmlew]

We have no need for the immigrants. Immigrants lower native fertility. Also, the 1965 immigration act preceded abortion.

[rmlew]

No one has the common sense to retort to the EU Fascisti that we are no more responsible for Breivik than the Social Democrats are for the Red Army Brigade?
When did did all of Europe act like Ghetto inhabitants.

[Paradox]

Short of forcing “the right people” to have babies, there really is no solution to this. The best we can do is to make sure we correctly culture our immigrants and their offspring.

[rmlew]

Short of forcing “the right people” to have babies, there really is no solution to this. The best we can do is to make sure we correctly culture our immigrants and their offspring.
We can secure our relative borders and end anti-natalist propaganda in schools and the media.

[Paradox]

That still wont solve the problem of low birthrate by the “right people”.

[rmlew]

That still wont solve the problem of low birthrate by the “right people”.
The "right people" are the ones most indosctinated by anti-natalist propoganda at school and materialism. We can't fix materialism, per se, but if TV showed good nuclear families with 3 to 4 kids, a lot would change. Instead we have bratty women throwing hissy fits at 200K weddings.

[munin]

When did did all of Europe act like Ghetto inhabitants

Having been born in Europe some seventythree years ago, I most say they were not this way then, I guess it happened a litle at the time and they never notised it, a little like placing a frog in cold water and then slowely heating it up, the frog will happily stay there until it is cooked, I’m sure glad I left in 1954, problem is it is happening here to now, and the mainstream are not seeing it, hope more will before it is to late, next year is crucial for our survival as a free people.

[rmlew]

When did did all of Europe act like Ghetto inhabitants
For the last 15 years, at least. They dare not speak up and assert their rights lest they offend the government or their new betters.

[Paradox]

Instead we have bratty women throwing hissy fits at 200K weddings.

I hear ya. Still don't know what to do about birthrate. It seems to be something to do with the increase in standard of living. I think the only "westerners" who are increasing in number are religious/evangelicals. I dont really see how government can help there. There needs to be a spiritual re-awakening in the West. And I say that as something of an athiest!

[Roadgeek]

Gentlemen,
I definitely agree with you on the need for a spiritual re-awakening in the Western world, and, of course, for better role-models in entertainment and the media, just as Mr. rmlew has been proposing.

But for the financial part, I remember three proposals of an author named Brimelow, which he made in 1992 in a National Review article titled “Time to rethink immigration?”. He opined:

a) what about adjusting the federal income-tax code for inflation? In 1950, this provision exempted $ 7,800 in 1992 dollars, although by that time it had shrunken to no more than $ 2,100 in 1992 dollars.
b) the so-called “marriage penalty”, which burdened married couples with more tax, should be done away with (Note: this has been achieved in the last few years, IIRC).
c) do away with the public school cartel, in order to reduce the costs of giving childeren a good education.

Wouldn’t this help families with a good education and work ethic to have larger families, and thus rear more children, who would then in turn grow up to become good, law-abiding and productive American citizens?

[Tijeras_Slim]

Nice first post, and nice profile page.

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