ICE blamed for Texas parolee law delay

Houston Chronicle ^ | October 29, 2011 | SUSAN CARROLL

[rintense]

Wow are you thick. Let me give it to you in simple terms: He mandated gardasil because HE hates cancer.

[DTxAg]

Exactly. Perry mandated Gardasil because he hates cancer. You’ve provided definitive proof that your original statement is false. He clearly doesn’t blame others for that decision. Thanks for the help proving your original statement wrong.

[rintense]

Keep telling yourself that.

[DTxAg]

Thank you. I will keep telling myself that:

"I hate cancer" is not "blaming others" when justifying the HPV vaccine.
"I hate muscle paralysis, deformities, and death" is not "blaming others" when justifying the polio vaccine.
"I hate liver cirrhosis and liver failure" is not "blaming others" when justifying the hep B vaccine.
"I hate brain damage and paralysis" is not "blaming others" when justifying the meningitis vaccine.

I could continue, but you (probably) get the point. You've set such a high standard that virtually anything Perry said about the HPV vaccine would be "blaming others." If you had simply said you dislike Perry and nothing he said justifying the HPV mandate would work for you, you would at least have been honest.

[rintense]

Please tell me what is conservative about mandating gardasil.

[DTxAg]

You mean let’s change the subject and stop talking about your silly original post that said saying “I hate cancer” is blaming others? I’ll be happy to change the subject if you’re willing to admit you were wrong and that saying “I hate cancer” really is justification for the HPV vaccine that requires no “blaming others.” Like I said, I have no interest in discussing anything with someone who believes that they and their preferred candidate can do no wrong.

[rintense]

If you can't find a conservative position as to why Perry mandated gardasil, it falls on Perry's words- which goes back to 'I hate cancer'. So, either Perry made the decision based on a conservative principle (and we know he didn't), or, he used his own personal hated of cancer as the excuse, thus, making cancer the scapegoat.

I stand by my original post that Perry blames everyone else (and everything) for his bad decisions.

[DTxAg]

If “I hate cancer” is “blaming others,” then there is no justification that could possibly be given for any vaccine that would fall outside of “blaming others.” Like I said, you’ve defined “blaming others” so broadly that nothing Perry said would fall outside of your predefined position. Which would be fine, if you hadn’t tried to hide your predisposition in a claim of somehow finding a character flaw in Perry.

[rintense]

Perry has many character flaws, placing blame everywhere except where it belongs is only one of them.

[DTxAg]

So justify any vaccine for any disease if trying to defeat the complication from that disease is “blaming others”.

[rintense]

You're presuming this vaccine is like all the others. It's not.

Why don't you ask Perry why he felt the need to mandate a vaccine without any research (which he admitted to). How many other states mandated this vaccine?

Perry's cancer excuse is playing on the fears of parents AND kids. It's a ridiculous, nanny state knee jerk reaction to put more government in people's lives.

In the meantime, you keep trying to find excuses, ok?

Cheers and goodbye.

[DTxAg]

You keep trying to change the subject to nanny-statism or big government, but it won’t work. Just admit it, you came up with a test, a test that Perry could never pass regardless of his motivation, to claim you’ve discovered some character flaw in Perry. But trying to reduce cervical cancer is not “blaming others,” despite all of your protestations to the contrary. But by all means, please keep saying goofy things like hating cancer is blaming others. It’s real easy to beat arguments like that.

[rintense]

Nope, sticking to it. And you haven't beaten anything, other than the dead horse of Perry screwing the people with a liberal, emotional plea. And you trying desperately to argue semantics? Knock yourself out, Sparky. It still won't change my opinion, and it certainly won't change the minds of voters who let Perry know just exactly what THEY believe about him and his gardasil record. Perry = toast.

Maybe he'll blame bread makers next.

[rintense]

Hey, if Perry is toast, will he blame bread or toaster makers next?

[DTxAg]

Semantics? I’ve stayed on point, arguing that your original post was wrong. You’re the one who’s tried to change your justification time and again. Your original point is wrong - saying I want to reduce cervical cancer is not “blaming others.” It is a medical justification for a vaccine. If eliminating a complication from a disease cannot be used to justify a vaccine, nothing can. I don’t expect you to be able to admit you were wrong, any more than I believe that “cheers and goodbye” means you’re leaving. I, however, do mean what I say, so cheers and goodbye.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Hey, if Perry is toast, will he blame bread or toaster makers next? “

Look out, Toastmaster! Your days are numbered : )