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Herman Cain, Outlier
The New Yo9rk Times ^ | 27 Oct 2011 | NATE SILVER

Posted on 10/27/2011 4:38:21 PM PDT by mandaladon

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To: Sir Lurks Alot
But I do know what an analyst should not do: he should not use terms like “never” and “no chance” when applied to Mr. Cain’s chances of winning the nomination, as many analysts have.

Wow, even a NYT political analyst outdoes freepers occasionally!

41 posted on 10/28/2011 5:01:55 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

I’m surprised to hear that out of your talk radio lineup.

What they are stuck on is the old playbook.

They are saying Cain is “doing it wrong” because he’s “not doing it the way it’s always been done.”

If they don’t think Cain should president, I have no problem with that. They should state that directly and give their reasons.

But it’s just dumb and poor reasoning to say Cain “won’t” be president or shouldn’t be president because he’s not using the traditional party apparatus to go about his business of campaigning.


42 posted on 10/28/2011 5:05:33 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: justsaynomore
Imagine before, being able to read a candidate’s writing, or hear his speeches or check his stances on issues... It’s pretty incredible. I think it’s funny too, that the two oldest candidates are the two that use the new technology the best

I don't get how these pundits, pollsters and professional analysts miss this!

They are no longer the gatekeepers. Cain, for example, has a huge archive of columns, talk radio transcripts, speeches etc. available for any voter to read, post and start a widespread discussion over.

We haven't a candidate with this kind of record of his actual thoughts, analysis and philosophy of governing available to one and all to see, DIRECTLY, with no media filter, no less, in history.

They haven't fully appreciated what it means that each person in their audience now has some ability to fact-check what they say -- or to find the links to back up an opposing viewpoint. This also means that voters are essentially doing their own vetting of candidates.

When Cain gives a speech in TN, for example, because there is so much interest in him, hundreds of thousands of people throughout the US see the clip on the internet and end up watching the entire speech. Then talking about it, not only with friends and neighbors, but with thousands of people, again spread throughout the U.S., in forums such as FR.

That trumps having the little ladies lined up to go door-to-door handing our brochures and asking you to vote for so-and-so any day! And these days people aren't home, nor do they want to open the door anyway! So it's pretty funny to hear many of these people still talking about an old-style "ground game."

43 posted on 10/28/2011 5:15:27 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Longbow1969

Man, even Nate Silver of the NYT wouldn’t go there.


44 posted on 10/28/2011 5:17:16 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: ziravan

That, my friend, is it in a nutshell. Entirely.


45 posted on 10/28/2011 5:17:53 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Brookhaven

I’ve often recommended Tony Blair’s political memoire, “My Journey.” Fascinating on several levels.

One of the observations he makes there that really made an impression on me:

“Mood always trumps politics.”

Basically, there is this mostly unquantifiable force called the “mood of the country.” It has a mind and will of its own, so to speak, and it defies (or at least operates separately from) political convention.

In the draft, it’s probably comparable to that last piece of the puzzle, the gut instinct about a player.

The reason draft prediction models are so often wrong is the same reason political convention can be wrong: gut instinct/mood of the country trumps all.

I see this in 2008: the mood of the country led to the election of Obama, despite the fact that on the political fundamentals he was already a disaster.


46 posted on 10/28/2011 5:24:16 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: Pan_Yan

It’s beginning to seem to me that everyone’s ex-aides are always complaining of a “campaign in chaos.”

Maybe campaigns just are pretty chaotic and the candidate never does/can micromanage them enough to meet the liking of some?


47 posted on 10/28/2011 5:26:09 AM PDT by fightinJAG (NO REPRESENTATION WITHOUT TAXATION! Everyone should pay taxes, everyone should pay the same rate.)
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To: mandaladon

Anyone who still reads that rag and believes it is forever lost in the murky sea of lies and deceptions.


48 posted on 10/28/2011 10:37:53 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( llike Herman Cain)
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