I believe the invitation was to debate Romney. Have they offered to put him in the Gingrich/Cain debate?

Perry is not really even worth the time now...He has been outed for the con-man he is. He is no conservative and most of the republican party (Thank the good Lord!) realize who he is now and what he is up to.

It’s hard to “stop” a one time event that happened in the past.
In contrast, let’s see how many times Cain has referred to Black/African Americans as a special group.

First, his land of OZ:
http://www.detnews.com/article/20111021/POLITICS03/110210417/Cain-proposes-to-help-%27empowerment-zones%27-such-as-Detroit

“Because you have a lot of African-Americans located in cities like Detroit — disproportionately — it would encourage businesses to stay in business there or to move there,” Cain told CNN. “It would encourage people to work there, because if you live in the empowerment zone, you’re going to pay a smaller percentage in taxes.”

There were the 2+ days when he insensitively commented on the condition of a rock from “1960 to 1981,” claiming he hadn’t had time to research.

And then, the silly comment about “black walnut” Haagen dazs, which would have been funny if it weren’t for the other events and that he dissed Blue Belle ice cream.

That's ok since Cain hovers at 25% along with Romney. The electorate is looking for someone else. Maybe Newt but either way Rino Rick would never take votes from Cain because only Rinos support him.

At least he's got 15 million to blow on ads.

South, please add me to your "anti-Perry" ping list, please...:-)

It's fun to smell the desperation of those who are trying to prop up a RINO like Perry...;-)

I think Perry and Romney are gearing up big time for Iowa, that’s one thing. And I sense they’re both kicking off a busy TV interview schedule. Cain has been doing TV interviews on a nightly basis. Gingrich just likes the format. As I recall, only 2 candidates can participate in this format. I think Cain shows some brass balls for debating Gingrich one on one. This could make or break it for Cain. But one thing in his hip pocket - I doubt it will get much coverage. And Fox News won’t even mention it, because Romney isn’t attending.

You've got it EA!

You're right, with La Raza Rick still dropping like a rock the desperation of his supporters is palpable. If he continues his current downward trajectory it won't be long before he drops below Newt and Paul. lol!

Wow...you guys are slowing down.

Why hurry now, Perry has already eliminated himself.

Give people a good look.

The precise reason Perry will not join, he can't stand a close look.

Perry was giving a speech. The conference was held in Texas that year for heaven’s sake.
Your conclusions and your statement about Perry and this supporter are false.

Meg

They don’t care if it is true or not.

The truth is apparently not important to some members here.

Perry was giving a speech. The conference was held in Texas that year for heaven’s sake.

Your conclusions and your statement about Perry and this supporter are false.

La Raza is racist. If Obama spoke to the Black Panthers as President, you'd be incensed, but Perry speaking to La Raza as Govenror is somehow okay.

Yeah, just a little pandering speech to the racists from La Raza. It does not matter one bit where this illegal lover ricarrdo gave it!!! I stand by my post. Support ricarrdo an you are supporting the invasion of this Country by ricarrdo’s illegals. Stay tuned as his little, ahem, muslim/islam/sharia ‘problem’ is starting to gain traction to. (A few more posts tonight on that subject on FR if you have been paying attention.) Then again, maybe you are for the islamification of America as ricarrdo is.

Maybe they figured he’d stammer a 25 minute interview into a full hour.

Maybe you’re merely ignorant of the fact that they don’t do full hour interviews on Fox News Sunday because they always have the panel in the second part.

Whoever said it would be a full hour was just wrong from the getgo.

Or maybe they thought 25 minutes wouldn’t be enough for a special case like Perry. If you put him on for 25 minutes, at least 21 of those minutes would be spent searching for difficult words in the middle of a sentence. You know, difficult words like ‘and’ and ‘the’.

Is he sincere, or calculating? Is he just saying what it takes to get elected? Is America ready for another “governor from Texas”? Why would a man who is an erstwhile conservative push the Trans-Texas corridor and try and force gardasil on all pre-teen girls? He seems quite comfortable with using the machinery of government to control the lives and property of others. That's my fear - he is just mouthing words, chopping air, to get elected. And I am heartless for distrusting him.

I am so cynical I distrust all of them except Cain, whom I think is sincere but a tad naive and shoots from the lip. I distrust Gingrich but am liking him more - at least he could expose Obama for the idiot he is. But G loves power and the sound of his own voice.

Tough year to make a tough choice. ABO 2012, though.

Obviously you're here to spread misinformation and spin.

The buzzing bees of anti-Perry activists with their "Gardasil-TTC-Border" mantra will only continue to highlight and enhance a Gov. Rick Perry nomination as truth of his work here in Texas gains national exposure. Rick Perry as governor, used all resources at his disposal in an attempt to make a cancer vaccine available to Texas children. The governor is battling environmentalist activists in his push for more transportation infrastructure in a state exploding with commerce and population. And using state resources, Gov. Rick Perry (denied the necessary and requested federal help needed by a border state to deal with the consequences of current federal inaction, in addition to shouldering the continued fallout from past federal actions) works to hold the line on the 1250 mile section of the U.S. border between Texas and Mexico, our neighbor to the south.

Perry's tax and economic reform proposal ?

Here's a comparison that's worth your time.

Let's Bump Plans: A Comparison of Gingrich and Perry's Flat Tax Plans

Gingrich's Plan Far Bolder than Perry's Plan and Will Lead to Far More Robust Job Creation and Capital Investment in United States

	Gingrich	Perry	Verdict: Gingrich Plan Better
Rate	15%	20%	Gingrich has advocated for several years an optional flat tax rate of 15%, which when coupled with Gingrich’s bold entitlement and regulatory reforms, will usher in another era of booming economic growth and new, higher-paying jobs. The Perry rate of 20% is higher than the 17% that Steve Forbes proposed in his 1996 and 2000 presidential campaign.
Who Gets to Make Deductions for Charitable Giving and Home Ownership??	Everyone	Families making less than $500,000/year	By creating two separate classes of taxpayers, the Perry plan buys into the same class warfare that characterizes the Obama and Romney economic plans. The fact that there are still two brackets – even under a supposed “flat tax” plan – calls into question whether this is really a flat tax at all.
State and Local Tax Deductions	Not deductible in optional flat tax plan	Deductible in optional flat tax plan	The Gingrich plan has a lower rate so less need for state and local deductions. The deduction is a federal subsidy for states to adopt higher state and local taxes. Removing the subsidy would lead states to reduce state and local taxes, or adopt their own flat tax reforms. The Perry plan erodes states’ competitive advantages by making state and local taxes deductible in his optional flat tax plan.
Who Benefits from Elimination of Capital Gains Tax?	Everyone	Depends whether capital gains is long term or short term. Perry’s plan eliminates cap gains only for long term.	The Gingrich plan maximizes the capital investment and job creation that will accompany the elimination of this tax. The Perry plan only goes halfway, and by levying up to 35% tax on short-term capital gains, it will discourage investment, venture capital, and new jobs creation.
Corporate Income Tax	12.5%	20%	The Gingrich plan will create a boom of new American entrepreneurship by dramatically cutting the corporate tax rate to one of the lowest in the developed world. The Perry plan relies upon a short term “tax holiday,” then only drops the corporate tax rate to 20% -- only average in the developed world, and still over 20% higher than our closest economic competitor Canada, which has a rate of only 16.5%. Gingrich rate makes U.S. more competitive than Canada.
Payroll Taxes	Eventually replace payroll tax with personal accounts, financing better results	No change in existing payroll tax	Gingrich supports personal savings investment and insurance accounts that would eventually be expanded to finance all of the benefits now financed by the payroll tax, allowing that tax ultimately to be phased out altogether.
Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Child Tax Credit	Both the EITC and the Child Tax Credit are preserved in Gingrich's optional flat tax system.	No information provided.	Preserving the EITC and Child Tax Credit are critical to ensure that the optional flat tax system does not unfairly target low-income Americans. Gingrich passed the first child tax credit as Speaker in 1997, and will preserve this credit and the EITC under his optional flat tax system.
Record in Achieving Dramatic Jobs and Economic Recovery at the National Level?	Yes. Substantial. See record at right.	None.	Speaker Gingrich's Record (1995-1999): • Eleven Million New Jobs • Four Straight Balanced Budgets for the First Time Since the 1920s. • Unemployment rate of 4.2%. • Federal Spending Held to the Slowest Growth Rate Since the Early 1950s (avg. of 2.9% a year). • Venture capital investments grew 500% in three years and manufacturing sector grew to 17.43 million jobs. • Bipartisan Welfare Reform that Lifted Millions from Poverty. • Over $400 Billion of National Debt Paid Down

Download this chart as a PDF.

Gingrich's Advocacy of the Flat Tax Dates Back to 1997

From Item 2 in Gingrich's 21st Century Contract with America (September 29, 2011)
All tax filers would be given the option to pay their income taxes subject to current income tax provisions or to pay under a lower single rate of taxation with limited deductions.

Release of Jobs and Prosperity Plan Upon Announcement of Campaign (May 13, 2011)
Move toward an optional flat tax of 15% that would allow Americans the freedom to choose to file their taxes on a postcard, saving hundreds of billions in unnecessary costs each year.

In his 2010 book, To Save America
To generate another lasting economic boom, we need fundamental tax reform, similar to that proposed by Steve Forbes. We should adopt the optional 15 percent flat tax with generous personal exemptions.

In his 2008 book, Real Change
This concept of an optional flat tax was developed by Steve Forbes when his flat tax campaign was undermined by criticisms that it would take away popular tax breaks. Steve Forbes and Stephen Moore have both proposed giving American taxpayers an opportunity to choose simplicity versus complexity and a single rate over a lot of deductions. They call it the free choice flat tax, and it's an idea whose time has come.

In a 2008 National Review op-ed with Texas Representative Michael Burgess
An optional flat tax would save taxpayers more than $100 billion per year and reduce compliance costs by over 90 percent. This is a stimulus package that would have an immediate effect on our American economy.

In Foreword to Steve Forbes' 2005 Book Flat Tax Revolution
I believe there is a real opportunity for a similar grass roots revolution imposing the flat tax on Washington. As people learn how much money and time they can save through a flat tax they are going to demand a simple alternative to the complexity and uncertainty of the Internal Revenue Service. As people spend hours in frustrating and seemingly endless paperwork and record keeping and preparing they are going to demand the freedom for their own time offered by a flat tax....As people watch the endless maneuvering of the lobbyists and the special interests they are going to demand the fairness of a flat tax.

As Speaker of the House in 1997
There are things I would like to do like a flat tax with virtual elimination of the IRS.

**UPDATE: The chart above has been updated to reflect information about the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Child Tax Credit.

Of course if you get paid in cash, like most of Perry's ILLEGALS, you don't pay any tax.

This thread must really be bothering you.

GOOD!