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Herman Cain clarifies, sort of: “I am 100% pro-life. End of story.”
Hot Air ^ | October 20, 2011

Posted on 10/20/2011 6:40:19 PM PDT by wmfights

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To: mnehring

Urging blacks to vote pro-life is nice, but being in office where you can make ACTUAL change is more important, wouldn’t you say?


21 posted on 10/20/2011 6:57:41 PM PDT by magritte
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To: normy
Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

22 posted on 10/20/2011 6:57:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: normy

You’re a freaking idiot.


23 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:33 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Herman Cain 2012..get on the CAIN train!)
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To: normy

It was two questions. They took the second question out and strung his answers together to make him sound less pro-life. I’m sure it is not the last fabrication we will see.


24 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:50 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: magritte
Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

25 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: normy
spin coming out of the Cain camp.

You are saying this is 'spin coming from Cain' when he was sandbagged by a talk show host who was fired by the BBC for faking Iraq war torture photos? Jeeze, amazing how people trust the media now over someone with a lifetime pro-life record.

26 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:50 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Carl from Marietta

Thanks for your helpful insights, and your fine grammatical sense. I look forward to more in the future.


27 posted on 10/20/2011 6:59:58 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte
...but being in office where you can make ACTUAL change is more important, wouldn’t you say?

Then let's get him in office. Lord knows the career politicians who 'talk' on the subject haven't gotten anything of substance done (on this or any other Conservative issue). Maybe it is time to stop the 'doing the same thing over and over expecting different results' with these career politicians.

28 posted on 10/20/2011 7:00:28 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: normy

Please look at post 11 and read for yourself. Before publishing it in attack form, they took out Morgan’s second question to make it sound pro-death.


29 posted on 10/20/2011 7:01:05 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: normy
The bullshit is your childish ignorance. READ it for youself. Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

30 posted on 10/20/2011 7:01:12 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
I watched that interview and the one by Fox. He did the same thing. The whole frame and context was about abortion. This was not apples and oranges.

By the way, "the Law is not made for the righteous man but for the ungodly."

31 posted on 10/20/2011 7:02:07 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: MNJohnnie
He’s talking about the entire government, not just the presidency, and of course it’s a core argument for pro-lifers that Congress should act to make this decision on behalf of women if/when Roe v. Wade is overturned. A moment later he told Morgan that his opinion as president shouldn’t necessarily operate as a “directive” on the nation, but then he was back to broad language about government again: “The government shouldn’t be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to a social decision that they need to make.” No pro-choicer could say it any better. How did we get from that to “I am 100% pro-life, end of story” in the span of 24 hours?

He is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

32 posted on 10/20/2011 7:02:12 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: wmfights
Patter? You mean the Perrybots lying about Cain? Yes that is an old tired pattern we see here every day. Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

33 posted on 10/20/2011 7:02:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: wmfights

Cain is 1005 PRO LIFE and says life begins at conception on Hannity interview today - good enough for me


34 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:11 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I STAND WITH ISREAL)
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To: MNJohnnie
Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

Darn, I must have missed the part where it says, "unless you are tearing down every other candidate but your own" clause. That must have been in one of those 'lost books' of the Bible.

Johnnie, do you remember the good old days when a majority of FReepers were good at discerning when the media was trying to play them? Now,they just play along and smile.

35 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:15 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: rintense

Cain also says believes in woman’s choice on abortion in case of rape. So if you are going to go after Perry on that aspect you have to go after Cain as well.


36 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:19 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: magritte
Agreed, you are a shameless liar.

Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

37 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:27 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: mnehring

And that would be wonderful. Perry indeed has a solid record as well, so I would hope we can agree that, while Perry has actually done pro-life in the arena, Cain has the potential to do the same things as Perry in the office of President.


38 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:41 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Reagan Man
Cain says life begins at conception and he opposes abortion. So does John Kerry! But Kerry also supports abortion rights through government. Sounds like Cain believes government has no role in the abortion issue.

A perfect summary.

39 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:49 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: Beelzebubba

Right now, Cain is our best shot.

Perry can’t speak at all. His positions are right on everything except the illegal alien subject.

Romney is unthinkable and totally unacceptable. The longer this goes on, the worse he looks philosophically. He would be to the LEFT of Bush II.

Bachmann can’t get off the ground.

Paul is too old and a foreign policy catastrophe.

Santorum ain’t going anywhere.

Gingrich would be great but has no traction so far.

That’s pretty much it.


40 posted on 10/20/2011 7:04:22 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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