Posted on 10/17/2011 8:31:03 PM PDT by Kevmo
....whether the factory is in Miami, Bologna, or the Keebler elves hollow tree it has produced an awful lot of hardware
***pretty good best-evidence argument
It’s not opinion, it’s objective fact.
***How is it that you have the ability to read the intentions of a person? This is the logical fallacy of mind reading. And yet, you say it’s “objective fact”. You proceed from your own opinion as if it were a fact.
It’s there, for everyone to see.
The only reason one would get a fake diploma is to deceive others into thinking he has a university education.
***He already has a university education. He has some fluffy non-science degree. So if he already has a university education, that would not be the only reason one would get a fake diploma.
Let me rephrase that: “To deceive others into thinking he has a relevant university education.”
Understand now?
I’m going to look to see if I can find some site which will allow two people on the Internet to place a bar bet, perhaps through Paypal, while maintaining privacy. If I find such a site, are you willing to put a USD $50 bet on your guy Rossi? I’ll happily bet you $50 that this test on the 28th is unsuccessful and that Rossi will be unmasked as a scammer some time thereafter.
Actually, I have an even BETTER idea: let’s make this bet to Free Republic’s benefit. If the test on the 28th is a huge success and the E-Cat is greenlighted for mass production, I pay FR USD $50. If the test is a failure, YOU pay FR USD $50. Either way, Free Republic wins. Jim Robinson or a moderator can post confirmation of receipt of the donation.
Whaddaya say?
I already tried that at Intrade. They wouldn’t list the contract. I’m not familiar with any other avenue for this basically illegal activity, but if you find one, let’s do it.
I might be interested. To be candid, since I already have money in my pocket from betting on cold fusion, I want more in my pocket. That’s how greed works its way into your heart, sad to say. Your approach is morally superior.
Scroll back to where our "conversation" began on this thread. That makes this poem really special! I love poetry! Thank you!
The last two verses were so sad, allow me to respond with a poem that blesses me when life is tough.
THE COMFORT OF GOD I have been through the valley of weeping,
Through the valley of sorrow and pain;
But the God of all comfort was with me,
By His hand to uphold and sustain.
As the earth needs the clouds and the sunshine
So the soul needs both sorrow and joy,
So when God puts His own in the furnace, He intends all his dross to destroy.
When He leads thru some valley of trouble
His omnipotent hand we can trace;
For the trials and sorrows He sends us
Are part of His lessons of Grace.
Well He knows that affliction is needed,
He has a wise purpose in view;
And in the dark valley He whispers,
Hereafter thou shalt know what I do."
As we travel through life's shadowed valley,
The fresh springs of His love ever rise,
And we learn that sorrow and losses
Are all blessings God sent in disguise.
So I'll follow wherever God leads me;
In the darkness His Word lights my way. I have proved that our Lord can give comfort,
And His grace and His strength for each day.
---Selected
It’s actually a kind of haunting song by christian musician Randy Stonehill.
There are some strong spiritual aspects to this LENR development. Look how people react to what it means if it is true: they say, “peace and safety”, leading to a possible fulfillment of a bible prophecy 1 Thessalonians 5:3
Yes, it's a scam. The main stable isotopes of Ni are Ni-58 and Ni-60. If the reaction is as claimed, the result would be Cu-59 and Cu-61, both of which are unstable and decay back to Ni (by emitting a positron).
The smoking gun in the article I cite is in the penultimate paragraph:
Then, we may add that the measurements made in Sweden showed that the copper purportedly created by nuclear transmutation in the E-Cat has the same isotopic composition as natural copper. That is simply not possible.
Exactly. The purported copper produced by the reaction was a fraud, plain and simple.
I haven’t read your link yet, but I was thinking a bit about this subject and I’m glad you brought it up again because I would like to add my (non-professional) musings:
Even if it’s true that the proponents are ignorant as to what kind of copper would be produced in any such reaction, and how unstable it would be, that doesn’t by itself prove them wrong (though it goes to the heart of their credibility, which is another matter).
After all, what if “cold fusion” works, and its by-products are radioactive but its result is a large net output of heat and its raw materials are much cheaper and easier to handle than standard fission reactor materials?
All that would mean is the idea of a “home unit” would be thrown out the window, but not the idea of cheaper, safer and more-abundant nuclear energy.
So the real question is, not are the proponents right about the copper isotope that would be created (though again, the fact that they are wrong on that says truckloads about their credibility) but:
Is there a large net output of heat?
If yes, then that is great news.
If no, it’s more hype and BS, like all “cold fusion” stories have been since the beginning.
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