Posted on 10/17/2011 6:38:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
I hope that all the people who have lost loved ones to illegal violence,
...all those unemployed due to illegals taking jobs, all the people who lack near by hospitals and the former employees of same that were closed due to providing care for illegals (by force of govt)
...come forward this election season and visibly campaign for those who would end it.
And I hope that all the illegal coddling people on FR go find a site that caters to their liberalism.
Actually I did respond to you. It is immoral to kill an unarmed person. Then some idiot said something stupid like “then they’ll bash your head with a rock.” That ended my interest in further conversation.
Listen, I understand there are a number of guys on the forum that have no qualms about killing illegals. It’s very sad and I feel sorry for them. It’s also unfortunate that apparently Herman Cain is one of them as well.
IIRC, you were the one calling for electrifying illegal border crossers. Not me. I can’t remember. Did you call for land mines and machine guns on the Tex-Mex border, or was that a different nativist rant?
You answered a question I didn’t ask. So you support the use of deadly force to secure America’s border. Yes or no? It’s a simple question. Please answer it.
Edit - “DO” you support....
Eisenhower solved the problem for quite a while, they caught the illegals (wet backs back then) and flew them down to the middle of mexico not drop them off the other side of the border..make them trave 500 miles to get back to the border...
“That’s my point. What goes up must come down. Hell remember Howard Dean in 04 and his early primary lead. Perry jumped in and crashed. Now Cain has become the ‘flavor of the month or maybe its week’. Shoot Dewey even won back in the day.
Politics is a game of ups/downs and the trick is to be the up when it becomes time to pull the lever. We aren’t at that time in the campaign just yet.”
That’s actually a reasonable comment...unlike the Perry Girls. So my reply...
While it’s certainly possible that Cain might peak early, he has an intensity unmatched (getting near 60% in some Tea Party polls), so he’ll have to screw up pretty big to lose. For example, he did only so-so in the debate last week...but kept right on climbing. In other words, the expectations are low...since he’s not a polished Newt, Mitt, or Perry...but a businessman. So it will take a lot to sink him.
As far as timing goes, the field is about set, and the primaries are coming up quick (thank you Romney), so there isn’t much time for others to climb quickly...it can happen, but the stars will have to line up just right.
We shall see...
IIRC you were the one calling people “idiots” and other “Civil” names like a flaming liberal. Several of us pointed that out to you but you went liberally along calling people names like a 3rd grader. Did wonders for your cred.
I said Machine guns BTW... But I’m fine with rockets, land mines M1A1 tanks, F22s, B52 and whatever else it takes to secure the border from an invading horde. Is protecting our border fully a problem for you? Why?
Who is this jerk Cain, anyway, I have never heard of him, and all of a sudden he is the second coming. Who the hell is this guy?????
Look him up. Info everywhere.
He’s not serious about the fence. He just thinks he is serious, because he hasn’t really looked at the border enough to understand that a full-border fence is unworkable.
But when he figures it out, he’ll apologize for saying he would build the fence, or he’ll say it was a joke, or say that he never said he would build a full fence, or that we don’t understand what he meant by full.
He’s a talk show host, so he knows all sorts of ways to say things. But still, since we can’t have Rush Limbaugh for President.....
That is true.
But I can see he is learning fast.
“He just thinks he is serious, because he hasn’t really looked at the border enough to understand that a full-border fence is unworkable.”
Back up the assertion a full fence is unworkable. Don’t just say it. Prove it.
Remember, we live in orbit on the space station, drill for oil in 13000 feet of water and build cities filled with skyscrapers...
So a piddly little fence cannot be done? China did it a thousand years ago with a fraction of the tech we have.
Its not easy keeping you malcontents in line. And yes, I did call you a “nativist idiot”. What of it?
Thanks for displaying what a juvenile delinquent you can be. LOL
Why is he a jerk......As the speech goes he speaks of the cartels taking over the border and murdering Americans.
Ah, more ‘civility’.
Please, continue.
Agree. My only point about Cain is that he truly hasn't received the vetting or dirt digging that the others have had applied to them, imo. Cain's at the top of the heap now so I'd bet that some people are digging to see what they can find about his past life, beliefs, pastoral duties, business associates, etc. Hell they'll dig around trying to find someone to make a smear remark or accusation. It's a sad state of affairs but that is a lot of how our political process has become.
True the closer he gets to voting time if he's still at the top the better his chances are.
Take care.....
So, you support Cain, and as a supporter you are selling him by claiming he always tells the truth first, and then lies when he thinks the truth is hurting him with voters?
I’d hate to see what someone who Opposes Cain would say about him that would be worse than your support.
Note that I have not called him a liar, nor have most of his detractors. Most have said that he speaks off the cuff without thinking, and then has to apologize a lot when he realises he said something stupid.
But you, a supporter, are claiming that his stupid statements are in fact what he believes, and later he lies about it.
I’ve done my part.
Its your turn.
“Agree. My only point about Cain is that he truly hasn’t received the vetting or dirt digging that the others have had applied to them, imo. Cain’s at the top of the heap now so I’d bet that some people are digging to see what they can find about his past life, beliefs, pastoral duties, business associates, etc. Hell they’ll dig around trying to find someone to make a smear remark or accusation. It’s a sad state of affairs but that is a lot of how our political process has become.
True the closer he gets to voting time if he’s still at the top the better his chances are.
Take care..... “
Thanks you too. I agree...the vetting will be interesting, but so far, nothing. It probably takes them a while, but still a good sign.
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