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(Drudge) SHOCK POLL: SC Primary: Cain 26%, Romney 25%, Perry 15%
ARG ^ | 10-10-11 | American Research Group

Posted on 10/11/2011 7:37:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf

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To: Kartographer
I made my case very well with an analysis right on the money. You chose to ignore it in favor of your own opinion. Okay. I think your opinion falls far short of reality. Its always nice to push back against conventional wisdom. Unless it comes back to bite you in the end.

Again. I don't know of any successful businessman who has made a big splash in politics. Do you? The last non-politician to get elected potus was Eisenhower. But Ike's record and resume is full of major positions of leadership in serious historic times.

Aside from personality and good rhetorical skills, I don't see what Cain offers conservatives. There is nothing to measure him on or to grade him on. Cain is moving up on the cult of personality and nothing more.

141 posted on 10/11/2011 10:45:38 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: tcrlaf

What? Southern, mainly white, racist conservatives like Herman Cain? Impossible. /sarc


142 posted on 10/11/2011 10:46:27 AM PDT by opus86
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To: Reagan Man

I choose to ignore nothing you are saying,how can one ignore something that the Perry and Paul supporters have flooded this forum for months with?

If you find fault in that I believe that’s your prerogative. I just choose to believe that in the United States one man can still make a difference. That a person can serve this country and not be a career politician beholden to many who holds their agenda above the needs of the country.


143 posted on 10/11/2011 10:57:01 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; Reagan Man
Aside from personality and good rhetorical skills, I don't see what Cain offers conservatives.

Pure projection by the Perry camp. That is exactly the complaint Conservative have about Perry. Other then personality and rhetorical skills, what has Perry offered us? Sure Perry makes great soaring speeches full of nice sounding platitudes. Platitudes are no substituent for plans and ideas.

Cain has offered up a serious Conservative plan for Government reform in 9-9-9. He has offered up a serious plan on immigration, on energy, on reducing the size and scope of Fed Government Power. Cain has demonstrated a fidelity to the 10th Amendment, even when that fidelity caused him grief with activist So ail Conservatives.

What has Perry offered? "Elect me I am a good guy who did some good things in Texas".

Sorry the one coming up short on the ideological, and intellectual, battlefield is Perry.

144 posted on 10/11/2011 11:00:56 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Reagan Man
I made my case very well with an analysis right on the mone

Stating your opinion as if it were fact is not "analysis" Nice you have feelings, your feelings are not facts. Try actually making a fact base analysis and people will start taking you seriously. Posting "because-I-feel-it-it-must-be-true statements is not "analysis".

145 posted on 10/11/2011 11:03:43 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Kartographer
>>>>>> how can one ignore something that the Perry and Paul supporters have flooded this forum for months with?

What exactly are you talking about? Care to elaborate? FWIW. I haven't seen many Paultards around FR for months. The few I have seen have been of no consequence whatsoever.

146 posted on 10/11/2011 11:16:34 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: hocndoc
Cain is no Sarah Palin. He can’t win votes like she did from the VP slot.

Sure he can. He's showing himself to be strong in the South, where Romney is weakest. And, for many, his conservative credentials will take some of the bitter taste out of pulling the lever for Mittens. Plus he puts a crease in the race card that the Dems are sure to play. Romney/Perry, which some deluded folks claim is the Rino Master Plan, does none of that.

Unless Cain shoots himself in the foot, he's the VP nominee. Doesn't have the bucks or the organization to head the ticket. He realizes that and will play nicely with Mitt, IMHO.

147 posted on 10/11/2011 12:58:40 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort

He doesn’t stir up the same loyalty and admiration that Sarah did in August, 2008.


148 posted on 10/11/2011 1:12:22 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: hocndoc
He doesn’t stir up the same loyalty and admiration that Sarah did in August, 2008.

But, so far, he isn't tagged with the negatives that she piled up later, so it's at least a wash.

149 posted on 10/11/2011 1:17:49 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Huck

Why? Sincerely. I want to talk about this.


150 posted on 10/11/2011 1:46:41 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Reagan Man

You are an adept twister.

First, with the ellipses. As a private multimillionaire, Cain knows what it is to see the unpleasant business end of the government where it doesn’t belong.

Second, we could point to Democrats who have served that long. Does this make them wise?


151 posted on 10/11/2011 1:58:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No twisting just some reality based facts.

Let me say this. I have never knocked Cain's successful business career. Experience in any of lifes endeavors is critical to reaching the highest levels of success in business or politics.

Perry may be a career politician, but he's also a successful conservative Governor. That sends us in one direction on the political experience meter. Cain is on the opposite end of that meter. No experience does not trump serious experience. Never has, never will.

152 posted on 10/11/2011 2:55:23 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man

You twisted the meaning what I said with those guilty ellipses; that proves you are a twister.


153 posted on 10/11/2011 5:07:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Reagan Man

It looks a whole lot like talk-out-of-both-sides-of-his-mouth-on-illegales “the heart” Perry will give us some kind of amnesty with consummate experience. I’d sooner see a rank amateur nix it.


154 posted on 10/11/2011 5:09:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: FryingPan101

That depends entirely upon our nominee. I will not support Socialist scum like Slick Willard, nor will I support open borders frauds like La Raza Rick. I won’t be the only one, either.


155 posted on 10/11/2011 10:10:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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