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How Bilingual Education is destroying Texan schools.
Center for Education Policy Texas Public Policy Foundation | Christine Rossell, PhD

Posted on 10/06/2011 2:50:17 PM PDT by dangus

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21 posted on 10/06/2011 7:17:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: metmom; wintertime

Texas homeschoolers may take particular interest in this thread.


22 posted on 10/06/2011 7:19:48 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: dangus; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

23 posted on 10/06/2011 7:37:00 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: dangus

I regret I can’t recall the source, but here’s the definitive
statement on bilingualism: a blessing for individuals,
a curse for a nation.


24 posted on 10/06/2011 8:05:26 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: cycjec

Don’t let’em fool ya. BE is a terrible curse on the poor shmucks sentenced by it to grinding poverty and illiteracy.


25 posted on 10/06/2011 8:15:46 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Seems you’ve abandoned the other thread, but the answers there fit this one, too.

Texas minorities do better than students in other States and better than the National average on standardized tests. http://www.willisms.com/archives/2011/03/trivia_tidbit_o_924.html

Rossell’s data shows that the discrepancies diminish in the higher grades.

Rossell’s thesis that bilingual education is ineffective and/or not offered to parents appears faulty, as evidenced by her own table on page 18. Children in the lower grades are enrolled in Bilingual Education, but in the higher grades, the number is less than 1% and in grades 10-12 it’s less than 0.5% .

Your own source, also refutes your claim that we keep Hispanic students in bilingual education:

http://www.texaspolicy.com/pdf/2009-09-RR01-bilingual-rossell.pdf

The Act asserts the superiority of native-tongue instruction
and requires the districts affected to offer:
• a bilingual education program in elementary
school beginning with kindergarten;
• a choice of bilingual education, instruction in
English-as-a-Second-Language (ESL), or other
transitional language instruction approved by
the agency in middle school; and
• English-as-a-Second-Language in grades 9
through 12.


26 posted on 10/06/2011 11:53:43 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: metmom

Since we are now homeschooling I don’t have to put up with teaching my sons spanish or hearing them speak it.


27 posted on 10/07/2011 3:02:50 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: hocndoc

You’re claiming that documentation that Texas requires six years of mandatory bilingual education (when even the theoretical practice of it was only for three years) somehow refutes my contention?

As for the success of minorities in Texas, read my conversation earlier in the thread. And how does the fact that BE isn’t used in grades 10-12 prove that BE isn’t ineffective?

Go look at her data, and see how BE students score 27% lower on tests than other language-minority English learners... even when the most struggling BE students, (a majority!) are exempted from the tests! You tell me how that is evidence of success.


28 posted on 10/07/2011 7:36:13 AM PDT by dangus
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To: hocndoc

You’re claiming that documentation that Texas requires six years of mandatory bilingual education (when even the theoretical practice of it was only for three years) somehow refutes my contention?

As for the success of minorities in Texas, read my conversation earlier in the thread. And how does the fact that BE isn’t used in grades 10-12 prove that BE isn’t ineffective?

Go look at her data, and see how BE students score 27% lower on tests than other language-minority English learners... even when the most struggling BE students, (a majority!) are exempted from the tests! You tell me how that is evidence of success.


29 posted on 10/07/2011 7:36:30 AM PDT by dangus
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To: hocndoc

Oh, and I didn’t abandon any threads. I’ve answered all questions and objections from any threads.


30 posted on 10/07/2011 7:37:24 AM PDT by dangus
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To: hocndoc
Oh, and I didn't abandon any threads. I've answered all questions and objections from any threads. Oh, I see... you posted after midnight.
31 posted on 10/07/2011 7:38:51 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Yes, BE is a curse, for those forced into it and for all
of us. By a “blessing” I meant 2nd language acquisition
by those fluent (or soon to be fluent, for children) in
the majority language. Think of Icelanders, or Finns.


32 posted on 10/09/2011 12:26:11 AM PDT by cycjec
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