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Democrats Try to Kill Bank of America Over $5 Fee
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2011 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 10/05/2011 10:12:05 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: moehoward
Yeah but anyone who borrowed money from them, mortgage loans, CC debt, e.g. should pay it back as they promised. Otherwise they'd be thieving scum too. And should be as despised than the BOA banksters, right?

21 posted on 10/05/2011 11:22:00 AM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: tcrlaf
BofA MAde the HORRIBLE mistake of telling the Sheeple WHY they imposed the fee, and named NAMES

Got that right. You don't embarrass a member of the Imperial Senate like Dick Durbin as he is taking his attaboys for standing up for the little people and not pay a price for it.

The message is being delivered loud and clear to the other banks.
22 posted on 10/05/2011 11:22:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Dimocraps never think through the laws they pass for the unintended consequences....This is now known as the Dubin fee as far as I’m concerned.


23 posted on 10/05/2011 11:27:30 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I have to wonder what the top brass at BoA think being betrayed like that?


I can tell ya what they should be thinking.

The public is angry at banks. They want a perp walk. This country has had a populist backlash against bankers on a fairly regular cyclical basis throughout it’s history. Conditions are about ideal for it to happen again, and Durbin’s party is desperate for a campaign issue.

But I don’t think they are that smart.


24 posted on 10/05/2011 11:27:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: I see my hands

If one was successful in completing the loan process, with the intent to defraud, then yes, “they’d be thieving scum too”.

Again. Nothing to do with a $5 fee to spend one’s own money.


25 posted on 10/05/2011 11:29:04 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Kaslin

1) BOA bought Countrywide from Dodd’s buddy.

2) BOA will probably go bankrupt so no contributions to democrats will be forthcoming so they attack BOA.

3) I hate BOA, too, but for the right reasons.


26 posted on 10/05/2011 11:35:59 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Kaslin
Does the U. S. Government still have an equity position in BAC? In 2008, the government assisted BAC with liquidity in exchange for stock, as I recall.

If so, then Dick Durbin's ill-considered vendetta against BAC is also a broadside against the interests of the taxpayers he purports to represent, since they ponied up the money to keep BAC out of receivership three years ago.
27 posted on 10/05/2011 11:36:43 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Bank of America greased Dirty Turban Durbin’s palm in return for writing in the provision of the Frank/Dodd bill that allowed BoA to charge $5/month for debit card usage.

Wait... Frank/Dodd ALLOWED the $5 fee?? First I heard of that. My understanding is that F/D capped the interchange fee, and BoA imposed the debit card fee to make up for the lost revenue. In other words, there was nothing stopping them from imposing the fee before; they just never had a reason to do so until now.

28 posted on 10/05/2011 12:01:00 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: Kaslin
That is the way things work in a competitive, free market

...Miller said, as he filed a bill designed to further manipulate the market.

29 posted on 10/05/2011 12:03:15 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: Kaslin; windcliff
Relax everyone. The retailers lowered their prices 1 1/2% because they benefit from the lower debit card swipe fees. WHAT!!!!!, you mean they didn't do that?

I only deal with credit unions. Haven't had a "bank" account in over 30 years.

BofA should have named names. Whenever you hear, "We're from the government and we're here to help" just know it is going to cost you bigtime.

30 posted on 10/05/2011 12:05:23 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: moehoward
Nothing to do with a $5 fee to spend one’s own money.

It's not a fee to spend one’s own money. It's a fee to use their service to do so.

31 posted on 10/05/2011 12:12:29 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Kaslin

Boortz did an excellent monologue on this during his show yesterday ...


32 posted on 10/05/2011 12:13:24 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Kaslin
as unrepentant banks are still trying to rake in vulgar profits from their customers

Are banks limited regarding how much they can lend out? IOW, can they lend based on non-deposit assets? If so, "vulgar profits" = your mortgage.

33 posted on 10/05/2011 12:14:03 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: moehoward
Intent? That's irrelevant. One isn't lent money on their intention to repay. One is lent money on their signature, their sacred word. And when they don't pay back a mortgage loan, for example, they may not have intended to lower the property values of the homes in their neighborhood but that's just what they did. (And by lots more than $5/mo!!)

And no, you're just confused. The $5/mo isn't to use your own money it's for the convenience of using a debit card. Used to be the merchant paid (and had an incentive to pass along as little of the fee as possible in order to be competitive with other businesses) but federal regulations required the banks to shift the burden directly to the retail consumer. Convenience isn't free. Somebody has to pay, otherwise how would a profit be made? How would employees be paid? Or stockholders?

Nah, the $5 isn't to use your money, it's a fee for service rendered.

It's the loser, thief, deadbeats who thought they could take advantage (in the case of mortgage loans, for example) of a government rigged (CRA) system.


34 posted on 10/05/2011 12:15:00 PM PDT by I see my hands (Keep your sunny side up!)
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To: chris_bdba

“Dimocraps never think through the laws they pass for the unintended consequences....”

As we keep sliding into marxism, I am beginning to wonder if it is really unintended.


35 posted on 10/05/2011 1:02:19 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s all my fault. Ever since I bought it, five different companies have owned and/or serviced my mortgage, and four have gone broke. If Bank of America goes down the tubes, that’ll make five. I’m thinking about painting their corporate logos on the side of my house, like kills on a fighter plane.


36 posted on 10/05/2011 1:25:33 PM PDT by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Durbin wrote it in.


37 posted on 10/05/2011 1:59:08 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Durbin wrote it in.

So, Durbin wrote in BOTH the interchange cap AND the $5 debit card fee?

I thought people were calling it the "Durbin Fee" simply because that was how the banks reacted to his interchange cap.

38 posted on 10/05/2011 2:03:21 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Palin or Perry, whoever is ahead in the delegate count on primary day)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

Nope. He wrote it into the bill. That’s why I find it so funny that he would do this for BoA and proceed to stab them in the back by telling their customers they can go eff themselves and go to other credit unions or banks if they didn’t like the fee. I’m sure the top BoA people are not happy.

With this fee and their attitude toward their customers in general and the website not working well I expect to see a percentage flee.


39 posted on 10/05/2011 2:15:22 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: I see my hands
"One is lent money on their signature, their sacred word."

So signing the contract binds the borrower to some higher conditions not included in the contract? I fail to see how either parties "sacred word" is diminished by exercising contract provisos both agreed to.

And, again. That has nothing to do with BoA debit card fee. I supposed the bottom line is, all they're doing is upping the cost of a BoA checking account. If that makes them too expensive to do business with, people will walk away. I did years ago.

40 posted on 10/05/2011 2:17:53 PM PDT by moehoward
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