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Cain's conditional al-Awlaki policy
CNN ^ | 10-03-2011 | Rebecca Stewart

Posted on 10/03/2011 7:24:06 PM PDT by PerryBachmann2012

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To: NautiNurse
PROVE IT !
Cain states he left the Dem plantation ???
When ???
You don't even know but when Cain was last a Dem but your running around spinning about Perry for being a Denm in 1988 !
So the sleazy opportunist threw us all under the bus with his gay victim comment.
Tonight Cain NOW blamed his race card smear on the ROCK on Hannity . Very funny !!
Oddly, his Buddy Romney copied his race card tonight !!
But to Cain , Mittens is a great option but he vote for Obama over Perry ??
But my favorite pandering option is this one.

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/07/29/herman-cain-issues-apology-to-muslims/

How well does anyone know Cain ???

41 posted on 10/03/2011 9:16:15 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: NautiNurse; ncalburt
Your posts look like you are going postal. I’m happy you are supporting Rick Perry.

Does ncalburt think that his hateful posts in this thread and others actually win anyone over? Why is it that so many of Gov. Perry's supporters are so nasty? I sure wouldn't want to spend any time with them. If we Sarah Palin supporters had been so sensitive to people criticizing our candidate we would all have been sent to the funny farm by now. It is hard to imagine so much screaming, crying, and baby aching all about someone saying that a racial slur written on a rock was “insensitive”.

ncalbert since you have called NautiNurse a liar for stating that Gov. Perry supported Al Gore... maybe you can also get the Wikipedia entry on Gov Perry corrected that states, “Perry supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic presidential primaries and chaired the Gore campaign in Texas.”

You probably should try to get the references thrown out also:

Jay Root, Rick Perry: The Democrat Years The Texas Tribune July 14, 2011

“Rick Perry Was Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Chairman in 1988”. Enviroknow.com. 2011-06-23. Retrieved August 7, 2011.

While you are at it... you had best correct the folks over at www.politifact.com who state, “But Medina correctly nudged Perry about his Democratic roots. And she was close to right about his Gore connection, though a visitor from another planet might read her statement to mean Perry was improbably Gore's national campaign manager. Instead, he was Gore's Texas chairman.”

There are so many liars and so little time. After you are through correcting Wikipedia and Politifact you better head over to Time Magazine who said, “There's an inconvenient political truth for Texas Governor Rick Perry: he was his state's 1988 campaign chairman for then U.S. Senator Al Gore's first run at the presidency.”

After you finish correcting those lies, I will send you a few thousand other links for you to get corrected; it would probably be a better outlet for your excess energy than attacking other conservatives on this forum. You are not doing your candidate any favors by acting like a hate monger on this forum.

43 posted on 10/03/2011 10:07:19 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: bobzeetwin

Two words: William Ayers


44 posted on 10/04/2011 4:04:21 AM PDT by struggle
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To: ncalburt

>So when did CAIN the former RICH DEM leave the Dem party ??

>I think 2002 or 2003 !

>Sorry troll .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WP5dYfBBzU

That dog won’t hunt.


45 posted on 10/04/2011 4:10:38 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

I am not going to agree with you, but I will give you credit for making me really pause and think.


46 posted on 10/04/2011 4:14:24 AM PDT by bobzeetwin
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To: bobzeetwin

>>I am not going to agree with you, but I will give you credit for making me really pause and think.

The only reason I restate this so adamantly over and over again is that I can imagine a scenario in which a President suspends an election due to specious circumstances, and then uses this exact same rationale to hunt down and destroy American “terrorists” with drone weapons.

If for nothing else, Obama should be impeached for this breach of the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments.


47 posted on 10/04/2011 4:59:56 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

When our President, no matter who he is, starts to eliminate dissenters on American soil with drones then I’ll be concerned. This guy, of very dubious citizenship, was targeted in a de-facto combat zone. By his actions he had denounced any American citizenship by his actions. He had fomented murder and mayhem on legitimate U.S. citizens and had totally removed himself from any means of proper U.S. jurisprudence without the MILITARY taking risks that would require many servicemen putting themselves at extreme risk. Exactly why should this happen? This man was not only a prior risk but also a future risk.

For a Republic to operate properly it requires that laws be applied with regard to the varying circumstances. That’s why, based on circumstances, you may have a murder, manslaughter, accidental or a self-defense verdict when someone dies. This man, on the face of it was, at least presumed guilty of conspiracy to commit murder based on the evidence provided. This is no way analogous to your scenario.

Had this defendant wanted to give himself up I believe that he should have been put up before a military tribunal, not a court of law. His actions were performed in a lawless combat zone. Calling him a citizen affords him rights that are not given to anyone else in that theater - you can’t kill him and you can’t capture him.


48 posted on 10/04/2011 6:22:21 AM PDT by Scoutdad
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To: ncalburt
PROVE IT !

You made the initial claim, YOU prove it. Post where Cain said he used to be a Democrat, and also if you are claiming a timeline, state when he was last a Democrat.

Or knock it off.

49 posted on 10/05/2011 6:36:46 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: ncalburt

You have previously been warned about refraining from over-the-top personal attacks with no basis in fact. You apparently did not take that warning to heed, so your posts will be reviewed by the moderators until such time you can learn to refrain from such.


50 posted on 10/05/2011 6:47:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator; ncalburt; struggle
Here's a timeline:

In this June 2011 Weekly Standard interview, Cain explains how he:

Became a conservative in 1988 as a result of seeing how minimum wage legislation was negatively impacting his ability to turn Godfather's Pizza around.

In 1994, Herman Cain took on Bill Clinton over HillaryCare at a Townhall meeting (video evidence posted by struggle in #44 above)

In 1996 Cain served as an adviser to Republican vice presidential candidate Jack Kemp

In 1999, Cain opened up a Republican presidential exploratory committee before dropping out and endorsing Republican Steve Forbes.

In 2004, Cain ran as a Republican for Senate in Georgia

Cain has been busy being a consistently conservative Republican for the past couple of decades.

51 posted on 10/05/2011 9:18:00 PM PDT by lonevoice (The Fresh Prince of BillI Ayers, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: ncalburt
You apparenlty believe you can disregard moderator warnings to either substantiate a claim or back off that claim.

So let me put it bluntly. Either substantiate the claim about the timeline of Cain being a Dem or back off of it. You never did substantiate your claim that Cain used to be pro-abort, so the burden of proof is on you to provide links to back your claims.

Your posts are now being reviewed prior to publication. If you persist in unsubstantiated claims, they will be discarded. Or worse.

Your choice.

52 posted on 10/06/2011 8:22:59 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Cain has publicly stated he left the Dem party plantation.
Goggle it !
He has stated he was a former Dem.
Goggle it.

Now someone has said he called himself a Dem in a interview at Weekly Standard. Odd how you let Perry get lied about here non stop and nothing is done about it!

So there are separate Rules for certain candidates now ?

53 posted on 10/06/2011 8:27:49 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: ncalburt
Now someone has said he called himself a Dem in a interview at Weekly Standard.

And I say you have four legs and three eyes. Doesn't make it so.

Oh, and BTW, I pulled a claim from another poster that Perry always campaigned as a pro-choicer. Clearly wrong, as all evidence to the contrary shows he never has. So the standard is consistent with all candidates. We ask that claims well apart from what is broadly known about a candidate be proven by links. If they can't be, the posts are pulled.

You initially claimed Cain was a Democrat in 2006. When someone pointed out that Cain ran as a Republican in 2004, you shifted it to 2002. For proof, you provide a link where Cain says he long ago left the Dem plantation. Long ago is not 2002, and Cain was involved in the 1996 GOP campaign effort.

So stick to claims that are verifiable by links. We don't pull stuff that is a difference of opinion over a stated fact. We pull stuff where the underlying facts of the claim are clearly wrong.

If you find that too stifling, well, tough.

54 posted on 10/07/2011 3:27:14 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

I sent you the two links last night that discusses the Cain line and his Dem past .
Where are they ?


55 posted on 10/07/2011 6:11:58 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Admin Moderator
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ollRkX0o5cM

here is cain saying that quote on you tube.
there are literally hundred of links ton this statement.
No one knows when the guy actually left the Dem party I have been asking that question because.
He has been quoting stating that a few times .
You stated now 1996 but some else posted 1994 and then I saw a post stating 1988 .
There is hundreds of different quotes on the date. The guy has never been elected so there are few records and alot of speeches and commentary

Oddly ,Posters are allowed to knowingly falsely posting that Perry was involved in Gore ‘s 2000 race and nothing is removed.

As for his abortion record, he was challenged in the 2004 GA primary about that and his weak support of the 2nd amendment by the incumbent GA Senator.

56 posted on 10/07/2011 6:12:29 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: ncalburt
You stated now 1996 but some else posted 1994 and then I saw a post stating 1988 .

You were stating 2006 and then 2002. That was not supportable by your own links.

Oddly ,Posters are allowed to knowingly falsely posting that Perry was involved in Gore ‘s 2000 race and nothing is removed.

No, YOU inferred that. They said Perry was involved in Gore's presidential campaign. They did not specify the date. You assumed they were talking about 2000, but they were talking about 1988.

So if you want your posts to stay up, make sure you can back them up. And if you are attacking other poster's veracity, make sure you have your own facts straight.

57 posted on 10/08/2011 8:53:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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