Posted on 09/28/2011 5:01:27 AM PDT by bobsunshine
Perry and Bush are not interested in doing what is in the best interest of this country.
The Republican elite is pushing a hard line on immigration? What universe do you inhabit and how do I get there?
The pro-illegal immigrant side keeps telling us how Hispanics are the fastest growing group in the US. Of course they are!!!! Our government won't stop the invasion and forces us to pay for their offspring. When we complain we're told we are heartless.
I might, just might, could vote for someone who had kind words for illegals eight+ years ago, if they came out now and admitted they were wrong. Anyone who has defended illegals in the last 8 years is toooooo stupid to run this country.
NO ONE, IN THEIR RIGHT MIND, COULD THINK LETTING MILLIONS OF UNEDUCATED POOR PEOPLE, WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN BIRTHCONTROL, INTO THIS COUNTRY, MAKES IT BETTER.
I don't believe they would/could think it.
Why? White Man’s Burden and all that rot? Or just that they didn’t make it into Heaven, being heathens and all?
Well, because even though many Europeans were poor and uneducated, they had, at least, invented the wheel, and used it. The Native Americans went the way all stagnant peoples.
I don't know if they are in Heaven. If they are, I doubt they give any thought to what's going on here. My maternal grandmother, a Cherokee (the only Native Americans with a WRITTEN language), believed, as a Christian, she would. She also believed she and her offspring were better off because the white man, "stole", their land.
That’s a pretty broad generalization for people who were anything but stagnant. Sorry, but that just smacks of White Man’s Burden junk.
“the status quo is 30 million people here illegally and their children they brought here, soon to be breeding a 3rd generation of babies living in no-man’s-land on govt welfare.”
The one good thing about the birthright citizenship doctrine is that it makes this scenario impossible.
“How does Romeny plan to round up millions and ship them back? Open the FEMA camps ala Japanese internment? THAT stain on our history is why I dont believe mass deportations will EVER occur.”
You fantasize about some overnight mass deportation sweep that will never (indeed!) occur, for good reason.
What can occur, however, is the enforcement of regulations regarding employment (building on E-verify, etc.) and public benefits (such as, ahem, not handing out tuition rebates to illegals, period). All that´s needed is enough tightening of policy and border control to make the net flow negative.
“Oh, I did not realize Romney supports the existing law and deportations of the 30 million illegals and their second generation children.”
Their second generation children are citizens under current doctrine. As for the rest of this particular strawman argument, please see my earlier post.
On a side note, the “moderate” policy of in-state tuition for illegals is opposed by 86 percent of the public. In Wisconsin.
http://www.wpri.org/Reports/Volume%2020/poll/WCS12.07Rel1Web.pdf
As for defining conservatism, I really cannot see how those who are not actually willing to defend the basic concepts of citizenship and sovereignty can be said to be conservatives in any meaningful sense. Libertarians, perhaps. Conservative? Hardly.
to be educated to argue on the issue- this Dream Act applies to immigrant children who were brought here by their parents, not those who were born here, who are American by birth.
Lets just call them children of “noncitizen taxpayers”. Since the Dream Act require documentation the parents PAID STATE TAX.
Candidates like Perry should lay out the exact costs vs benefits to our society of giving college-qualified noncitizen taxpayer’s children community college at the same tuition as other taxpayer’s children, it might defuse a lot of the emotion. Nobody blinks at giving welfare citizens, who pay no taxes, the state tution rate.
have a great day- as one conservative to another.
as an aside, since the cost of resident tuition to noncitizen taxpayers is so upsetting and unfair to real conservatives
You are aware that the denizens of DC, noble citizens, are given state resident rates at any state university or college (not just community) they choose in the nation? right? unlike the DREAM act students and their families, DC citizens need not provide any proof or record of residing in that state, graduating from its school system, or paying its taxes.
Do 86% of the good taxpaying people of Wisconsin support that?
Anything but stagnant? That would suggest they were leapfrogging over other races. So, in what ways?
Sorry, but that just smacks of White Man’s Burden junk.
I'm in no way saying whites are obligated to overthrow other races. As a matter of fact, I believe we'd be better off leaving them alone. We've created problems for ourselves by trying to "help" other peoples. I'm saying it's the natural order of things for advancing cultures to take over. The only way lesser cultures take over is what's happening in the United States with the Latinos. Because of our government, they are overrunning us. It's against nature.
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