Posted on 09/27/2011 12:55:20 PM PDT by VU4G10
Did I miss something? Headline reads: “Immigrants”. . . Not illegal immigrants . . . So what’s the problem?
PS Sarah’s my first choice, Herman’s my second.
Well, gee, who wants to hire heartless people?
You made an assumption based on what I did not say - therefore not understanding at all what I meant - and responded to me with information that is not relevant to my point at all - thus we are done here.
As an undecided with published cred on pro Palin and pro Cain articles (and nothing either way on Perry) I was simply saying that Digger’s particular argument was weak. Anything beside the particular argument made by Digger is totally not relevant to my argument.
I don’t think the jobs created include illegals mainly because it is against the law to create a job for an illegal or hire one.
It would really stupid to report you hired an illegal.
Exactly where do these statistics come from? Is there a line on the W-4 that asks if you are an immigrant? Legal or illegal? Country of birth? I don’t remember seeing that on any W-4s I’ve had to fill out.
Look, puppydog. My post was not about illegal immigration. I oppose illegal immigration and so do most conservatives. Guess you missed that part.
This has to with legal immigration and the efforts by John Tanton and his fellow nativists, racists and white-supremacists at CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA and their associates at Stormfront and VDARE, who support ideas like "racial purity through eugenics"". Tanton and his fellow fringers smearing Rick Perry. Not a novel idea but good to know.
This week its Tanton&Company. Last week it was Texans for Public Justice, a Democrat front group. Next week, who knows. LOL
I can’t wrap my brain around the fact that Perry (and apparently a lot of other Texans) feel it’s perfectly logical to provide in-state tuition to an illegal from Mexico. While at the same time charging out-of-state tuition to a legal American citizen kid from Oklahoma, who might happen to live 1 mile from the Texas border.
Sorry to have confused you with the reality of the source of digger’s information ;)
For Real Reagan Man, next week who knows...could be an illegal in the White House throwing ..well you know...
Just joking.
source of information at:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2784505/posts?page=26#26
You being a smart ass doesn’t change the fact that you assumed I had a certain agenda and you replied based on your assumption and not on the narrow problem I had with the reasoning of the post.
Right. I originally read the report as jobs taken legal and illegal (or recently arrived) immigranats. 81%.
True. But we do have a lot of legal immigrants working in Texas from all over the world. There have been a lot of tech jobs created.
I don’t think the numbers are off as far as job created here and I’ll go along with maybe as many as 5-10% could be illegal.
My son worked in construction as a supervisor and he told me ICE showed up at one of the new construction houses being built. They checked all of their documentation and surprisingly not a single one of them was without papers.
They were all legal.
Most illegals work on the farms, road construction and landscaping. You can hire a contractor but you can’t control who he hires. Seems like I remember Romney getting grilled over something like that in the past. But I don’t doubt he was unaware.
When the recession first hit, many went back to Mexico because there were no jobs for them.
Especially when it is, according to American immigration laws, a crime to hire illegals.
It seems special interest groups,such as affirmative action, homosexuals, pedophiles, animal rights groups, illegal immigrants, and anything green are all subversive anti-Christian, anti-Constitutional and not in the best interests of freedom loving and tax paying American citizens.
Hate to disillusion you about tech jobs but most tech ‘guest workers’ who often pay no or partial taxes and are brought in as cheap labor. There never has been a shortage of techies in the US, not ever during Y2K.
Many are unaware that ~ 40% of illegals are visa overstays, and white collar professionals (techies, physicians, nurses etc.) now not only compete with guest workers but also illegals who work through temp companies that vouch for them.
Legal immigration (guest workers who often pay no or partial taxes, and green cards) are as big a problem as illegals.
http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2011/09/20/whose_country_is_it,_anyway :
“Thus, well over a million workers are added annually to our labor force when 14 million Americans are looking for work “[actually 125,000 per month or 1.5 million per year].
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“U.S. companies see immigrants, legal or illegal, as an endless source of cheap labor to keep wage costs down. And they are right.”
Stop your whining. I appreciate Brother Buchanan and the WSJ pieces. They point out what we all know. The national economy sucks. Middle class folks are getting the short end of the American Dream. Since you obviously agree with John Tanton on severely restricting legal immigration. I take it, you too support a call for white supremacy and eugenics. TR, Wilson and Churchill did, so you're in good company.
>>>>>Boy, maybe you don't mind being the welfare and HR department for the world, I and many other conservatives do.
You need to find a better subject to criticize me on, bucko. That nativist hyperbole won't work. The US has to compete in the worldwide economy. So we will not turn into "Fortress America". If US companies stopped employing foreigners, we'd be in far worse shape then we are today. Properly educating our children should be the #1 priority to revive the US economy long term and to restore American exceptionalism. People are always coming to America. I'd rather they'd be legal foreigners as opposed to illegal aliens. Either way, they will come nonetheless.
If the Feds properly secured the border, we could start getting our house in order. Concentrate on correcting faults within the legal immigration system and streamlining the federal bureaucracy. Since liberals comprise the vast majoirty of US civil servants, I doubt we'll see any serious changes coming soon.
Btw, this conservative would like to see a more limited and less intrusive federal government. A govt that lives by the Constitution.
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